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Poll Question: Which of these albums do you prefer?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 07 2017 at 17:31
Originally posted by CosmicVibration CosmicVibration wrote:

The lead guitar player seems to be in his own world; as are the rest of them.  It’s plainly visible at the end of his guitar solo which starts around 5:00 and ends around 5:55.  Check out the expression on his face, he’s not just into it, he’s in it!



Oh mercy, that whole thing was good! The part just before the guitar solo, I was feelin that big time.. and then the part after the solo with the women singing(sounded a lot like the stuff I heard on that MDK album). And you're right the guy literally looks like he's in some kind of trace or something during that solo lol. 

Anyway I'm going to have give these guys another shot.. I'm liking the feel and sound of what you're posting from them a lot! 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 07 2017 at 07:23
The lead guitar player seems to be in his own world; as are the rest of them.  It’s plainly visible at the end of his guitar solo which starts around 5:00 and ends around 5:55.  Check out the expression on his face, he’s not just into it, he’s in it!


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 06 2017 at 19:07
Originally posted by CosmicVibration CosmicVibration wrote:

Comparing Camel to Magma is like comparing Edison to Tesla.  Compared to Tesla, Edison was still in grade school.

 

I do appreciate Camel, but they’re just not in the same league as Magma.


Oh now that's what I'm talking about. That was darn good, especially at 5:19 when the lead guitar started to really kick in there with the rest of them. Right on. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 06 2017 at 18:13
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 06 2017 at 18:03
Comparing Camel to Magma is like comparing Edison to Tesla.  Compared to Tesla, Edison was still in grade school.

 

I do appreciate Camel, but they’re just not in the same league as Magma.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 06 2017 at 13:43
Yeah I tried to listen to this "MDK" album that people fawn all over, and I.. *quickly looks around to make sure none of the 'higher ups' are listening* shhh didn't like it shhh. But I will keep trying.. this is one obstacle that I'm determined to overcome one way the other. 

I was told a while back by this mysterious, shadowy figure on here(who I've never seen before or since) that the next rung after Magma will be "Kid A" by Radiohead! But one thing at a time though. Baby steps..  
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 06 2017 at 05:12
Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

I'm a bit surprised how many people like Magma here......I have yet to hear an album by them that I think rings my bell.
All you Magma fans.....what am I missing...? Which is the album by them that I should be listening to?
Given your liking of 72-74 King Crimson, I'd suggest Kohntarkosz would be worth a couple of spins.

Having said that, lots of people just don't dig Magma and never will. Nothing wrong with that.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 06 2017 at 03:19
Camel's music always puts me in a good state of mind and makes me feel happy. Breathless is not their best album but it's still very refreshing and enjoyable to listen to. Magma I do have some of their albums but I find it simply does not connect with me very well. Listened to an album the other day and felt on edge by the time it had finished. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 06 2017 at 03:13
^They never connected with me until I saw them live. Then I finally got it.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 06 2017 at 02:20
Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

I'm a bit surprised how many people like Magma here......I have yet to hear an album by them that I think rings my bell.
All you Magma fans.....what am I missing...? Which is the album by them that I should be listening to?


The usual recommendation is the Live album.

Fwiw, I prefer Magma singing in Kobaian to English. Unlike opera...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 05 2017 at 11:06
I'm a bit surprised how many people like Magma here......I have yet to hear an album by them that I think rings my bell.
All you Magma fans.....what am I missing...? Which is the album by them that I should be listening to?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 05 2017 at 07:46
Magma - Attakh. Really disappointed with Breathless...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 05 2017 at 03:32
I really like Attahk.  Behind MDK and KA. and about equal with Kohntarkosz.

Breathless (and Rain Dances as well) are second tier Camel albums
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 04 2017 at 10:22
Camel for me.....always liked their albums. The Magma sounds like an outtake from a Supersister album with crazy vocals.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 04 2017 at 02:07
Originally posted by cemego cemego wrote:

Breathless and Rain Dances is my favorite era of Camel (probably because of Richard Sinclair).  Camel gets my vote! 
For me, Camel has never created a dud from the marvellous debut, through to Moonmadness. Then, Rain Dances and Breathless featured one of my all-time favourite bassists in Rich S. Two pretty good albums happened.
Magma are (generally) impeccable. Merci is still the weakest album they've ever done (3 stars - it does have Eliphas Levi ). Attahk injected some gospel stylings and Vander really exploited his, rather, shall we say, uncompromising style of singing here. It's a great album, though one of the most difficult for me to 'connect' with.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 04 2017 at 01:02
Camel - Breathless for sure
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 03 2017 at 18:46
Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Well the second song on Pawn Hearts is the one that opened up VdGG for me. The other was House With No Door, as I found it beautiful, but my tastes are not so rooted in rock as most people here. I was a classical music lover first, then later jazz.... Not that that means anything, I know others who were the same with classical music, but their favourite Prog music is Prog Metal (I can't take metal in more than small doses other than some classic heavy metal). My original tendency was to favour more pastoral Prog, but as I continued looking into stuff here, I really got into the more experimental and dissonant music.   Nowadays I like a balance of pretty, and pretty ugly music often. ;) When it comes to music it's always best to follow our own heart and your path, I think, which isn't to say that recommendations can't be useful, but they tend to be most useful when they align with your current tastes. Umm, why I am I going pseudo-philosophical here? Lack of sleep probably. The less I sleep the more I say.

Get some sleep bud, lack of sleep's not good for anything. Thanks again for the suggestions. I'll check out that House With No Door deal and see if I can get into it. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 03 2017 at 18:34
Originally posted by YESESIS YESESIS wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Richard Sinclair is great, I love Caravan and Hatfield and the North, but this Camel album is not one of the best, imo, to feature him by quite a long way. He makes it enjoyable, though. I don't think I'd like that song I posted in this topic if it were instead of him, say, pretty much any death metal growler. Actually, that might be cool. Probably some good death metal meets disco out there, maybe.... Perhaps, perhaps not.

I love Attahk. It's one of my favourite Magma albums, and it still sounds fresh to my ears these days. Most people fawn all over MDK, but I like the jazziness of the first two and the fun of Attahk. I like every Magma studio album, even the much reviled Merci, and I love lots of their live albums.
It's not the easiest band for most to get into.... I think a lot of people start in the wrong place, and what place to start depends on what someone is into. For me it was "Iss Lansei Doia" off the second album, but then I liked brassy jazz and very quirky music. It filled with joy.


Hmm, thanks for the suggestions. I'll have to try them and see if I can get into it. I did listen to some VdGG already. I listened to 'The least we can do..' and it was pleasant but nothing really grabbed me. But I did like the second song on 'Pawn Hearts' - the organ and whatever that distortion is was kind of kick ass. So Idk, I think I might be able to get into it..


Well the second song on Pawn Hearts is the one that opened up VdGG for me. The other was House With No Door, as I found it beautiful, but my tastes are not so rooted in rock as most people here. I was a classical music lover first, then later jazz.... Not that that means anything, I know others who were the same with classical music, but their favourite Prog music is Prog Metal (I can't take metal in more than small doses other than some classic heavy metal). My original tendency was to favour more pastoral Prog, but as I continued looking into stuff here, I really got into the more experimental and dissonant music.   Nowadays I like a balance of pretty, and pretty ugly music often. ;) When it comes to music it's always best to follow our own heart and your path, I think, which isn't to say that recommendations can't be useful, but they tend to be most useful when they align with your current tastes. Umm, why I am I going pseudo-philosophical here? Lack of sleep probably. The less I sleep the more I say.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 03 2017 at 18:21
Kenneth and Wanorak, I'm hardly surprised that neither of you are Magma fans as the music is quite unconventional, and both of your tastes, which have a lot of similarities, tend to run to the melodic and more mainstream side (I wonder if thats the same for movies and TV?). Zeuhl probably runs almost as cold in you blood as Neo-Prog runs in mine -- I'm generally not into Symph either. I do love folk, but mostly acid folk (not so into stuff like Strawbs and Mostly Autumn is for me, well, well let's just say that I'm not a fan). Vive la difference. I don't think Magma appeals to many people whose tastes veer towards AOR/ melodic rock, poppy acts, and mainstream Symphonic Prog. Of course we share the love of some music too. It's very quirky music, and appeals mostly to the RIO/Avant and more experimental music crowd, although quite a few symph fans like MDK and K.A. I much prefer Kobaia as I am into jazz.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 03 2017 at 18:06
Originally posted by cemego cemego wrote:

Breathless and Rain Dances is my favorite era of Camel (probably because of Richard Sinclair).  Camel gets my vote! 

Right on! My main man R. Sinclair.. Now I'm really tempted to vote for Camel here(just on account of him). But no, I.. I shouldn't.. not without listening to some more Magma first. Wouldn't be right. 
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