Why dont many girls like prog?

progbethyname wrote:   Wait? Is it Army of darkness?

ExittheLemming wrote: Prog Snob wrote: For the same reasons most girls don't play Dungeons and Dragons or become Tolkien fanatics. There is an elitism about it, something esoteric that most people do not get. That seems like a rather lazy association of ideas. Very little Prog actually makes reference to Elves, Goblins, Wizards or other typical elements of fantasy literature. This is only true for post-punk music journalists, and girls are clearly way too smart to either read or believe them. Perhaps the knowing irony of someone fashioned as 'Prog Snob' is an elitism and esotericism that people do not get?

Well, my username is more facetious than anything. I find most prog fans and prog musicians to be exceedingly open minded in regards to music, which discredits labeling one as a prog snob.

I don't think it's a "lazy association of ideas". I don't recall saying that prog makes references to the creatures you mentioned above. I was merely analogizing the esoteric cliques that are generally associated with such fanbases.

Edited by Prog Snob - June 01 2017 at 05:56

There was a young woman, maybe in her in early to mid twenties, who worked in a record store who used the term "prog" without any help from me. This was maybe ten or eleven years ago too. Then again she worked in a record store so maybe it's not that surprising.

Edited by AFlowerKingCrimson - June 02 2017 at 09:40

Probably for the same reason women aren't as likely to play D&D or MtG, or identify themselves as women when they play online video games: Because when they do, they're mobbed by thirsty dudes desperate for a date, condescending jerks who will bombard them with "Oh, you say you're a prog fan? Name five albums that aren't by Yes, Genesis, King Crimson, or Pink Floyd then," and the general culture of "This is a male activity. Feeeeeeeeeeeemales get out."

You know what? I managed to work up the stomach to read through a good chunk of this thread, and I can safely say that many women who are interested in prog may end up being put off just by the attitudes displayed in this thread.

As a girl that likes prog, I've met about an equal number of guys and girls that like prog. It depends on the community. Some online groups I've been in have been vast majority girls, some vast majority guys, but a lot have been about equal. I have seen some communities that weren't welcoming towards girls (and some were just not welcoming in general ), but luckily most I've been in are very nice. There are probably more girls that like prog than you think, they just might not be on Prog Archives, or post here often, or even reveal they are a girl.

I've met very few prog fans in real life, but a good number of girls I know from online prog groups go to gigs pretty often. So I suppose online, it may depend on the community, but there seem to be quite a bit of girls attending concerts and being active in the prog scene as well.

If you guys go to prog festivals or prog shows you will see women there trust me. Maybe not many younger women(although even that is starting to change) but they are there even if most of them are with their husbands or boyfriends. 

Edited by AFlowerKingCrimson - June 06 2017 at 19:33

^The only thing you do? You don't eat, drink, sleep, watch tv, read, go to work, watch movies, exercise, hang out with friends? 

Girls do like Prog, and also Extreme Metal - they're just few and far between. Simples

Blacksword wrote: Some women obviously do like prog, but I think it's fair to say more men like it than women. It's not sexist or unreasonable to make that observation. It just is what it is. Why do more women than men like One Direction? Women prefer dancing to men, and are generally better at it. Most women I know prefer songs about human experiences, not science fiction, wizards or out of body experiences. I don't know why, they just do.

This is a self fulfilling prophecy. Like many others on this thread, you appear to be merely disseminating the very cliched stereotypes that prejudice people against certain types of music i.e. very little Prog IMO is even tenuously preoccupied with 'science fiction, wizards' or 'out of body experiences' and the only people who believe that to be the case are those who have never actively listened to it or treat your comments as the only confirmation bias they will ever need.