Elements from Netherlands for NEO PROG

Review of the 'Monument' album at DPRP: http://www.dprp.net/reviews/201560.php#elements.

They haven't been added because there has never been an evaluation.  My reply (after I started logging into the site again after a 6 month absence just to round up all the missed suggestions that had accumulated during that time) was unfortunately the only response to the suggestion, and it has simply been forgotten again until now. Better luck this time around eh? 

Nobody ignores you deliberately Omid, I can assure you of that. LOADS of suggestions get missed on here - by all sorts of suggesters - indeed, one or two of my own suggestions still haven't received a response, and others needed several 'bumps' before they eventually got the attention of a collab.

Pity we work voluntarily 

You're hardly alone when it comes to that struggle. I appreciate this community, and engaging with people here is one of my support mechanisms. :) At times it can make me feel worse, but ultimately I love having this sense of community.

There is simply too much music released these days under the "prog" tag, and - let's face it - a lot of it is not very good, which often makes evaluations a chore. Therefore, burnout is always lurking around the corner. I spent the best part of the past 10 years or so writing reviews almost non-stop - with the result that now I can hardly write a couple of sentences about music, and (what is worse) have steadily lost interest in it. Nowadays it's more a matter of going through the motions than something I really take pleasure in.

Based on my own experience, I am not surprised in the least that some people get to the point of disappearing completely. Keeping up with this section of the forum is not for the faint of heart. Personally, I think the whole evaluation process is in need of a overhaul. I would be in favour of allowing single Collabs to add bands, though I understand this is a rather controversial proposal.

Raff wrote: There is simply too much music released these days under the "prog" tag, and - let's face it - a lot of it is not very good, which often makes evaluations a chore. Therefore, burnout is always lurking around the corner. I spent the best part of the past 10 years or so writing reviews almost non-stop - with the result that now I can hardly write a couple of sentences about music, and (what is worse) have steadily lost interest in it. Nowadays it's more a matter of going through the motions than something I really take pleasure in. Based on my own experience, I am not surprised in the least that some people get to the point of disappearing completely. Keeping up with this section of the forum is not for the faint of heart. Personally, I think the whole evaluation process is in need of a overhaul. I would be in favour of allowing single Collabs to add bands, though I understand this is a rather controversial proposal.

I am glad this discussion has been restarted, and thanks to Micky for his welcome comments.

Turning to Raff's post quoted above, I, too, used to love reviewing. In fact, I have been on a bit of a spending spree with new music in the last month, or two, and I have a huge backlog of music which I would love to post my thoughts on, but I am finding it extremely difficult to motivate myself to do so, and it is not just the usual (true) excuse of not having a great deal of free time to do so.

Perhaps if I get around shortly to doing the one, and enjoy it again, then the rest will flow.......

hmmm.....heartfelt and honest.. so I'll return the favor.

I do understand the frustration.. back in the day we, especially Raff and I who drafted countless members to join our teams and become collabs, would have zero'd in on you. I appreciate the respect the drive and caring about seeing the bands added.  It was hard work back then, probably harder still today, and you needed people that were dedicated and cared.

don't take it personally... being 'ignored'.... it is not personal and I'm sure you're adult enough to realize it. It takes a special breed to invest the time to monitor, evaluate and add/maintain and those resources you mention.. are in fact rare and precious.. not something commonly found.  We had a lot of them in those days.. highly motivated and knowleagle people...and we built this site and we should be, I know I am, damn proud of it. 

However whatever frustration you might have, you do have to temper it with understanding this site is dead man.. creatively dead. It has been on autopilot for years with a few obvious exceptions of some teams that still are killing it.  The problem is two fold.. not enough volunteers to help with the screening and adding.. and what goes hand in hand with that is the lack of feeling that devoting such time would do anything meaningful. For all the sh*t I give the classic admin team, some of it deserved... some just to be a instigator.. they really supported us well.  When we needed something.. they helped out.  There is nothing like that today...  you have a couple moderators sweeping away spam or moving wayward polls and threads. .but the big problem is there is no leadership here thus the site continues on autopilot. 

My advice...  spam more and worry less.  As I noted above...  the site could get back on track.. but it would need some hard changes to how it has done things.. and without leadership to implement it.. it ain't happening so you can just accept it and be happy when a suggestion is noticed... or not.