The Rush Gonna Win Poll

Vander has said that he employed a made-up language because he was more interested in the sounds than the meanings of words (the vocals are another instrument). Imagine how different French sounds than the rather Teutonic sounding Kobaian. Maybe because I mostly listen to instrumental music (and music with lyrics in languages that I don't speak), and rarely pay attention to lyrics outside of folk music, I have no problem with his choice.   Maturity is not the issue when it comes to preferring one of these bands over the other. I loved Rush when I was teenager hanging out with the zonked kids at school who parked at the back of the school (true), and now as a zonked out middle-aged man who parks in front of a computer screen I prefer Magma. My tastes changed, but I wouldn't call myself more mature now than I was then, just older and more zonked out.

Edited by Logan - April 20 2016 at 15:25

Logan wrote: Vander has said that he employed a made-up language because he was more interested in the sounds than the meanings of words (the vocals are another instrument). Maybe because I mostly listen to instrumental music, and rarely pay attention to lyrics outside of folk music, I have no problem with his choice.   Maturity is not the issue when it comes to preferring one of these bands over the other. I loved Rush when I was teenager hanging out with the zonked kids at school who parked at the back of the school (true), and now as a zonked out middle-aged man who parks in front of a computer screen I prefer Magma. My tastes changed, but I wouldn't call myself more mature now than I was then, just older and more zonked out.

Well, according to Mr. or Miss Intruder once one goes through puberty they no longer listen to Rush.  One must assume that he means that listeners to bands like Magma must be more mature.  I've not once been zonked out in the car behind the school or elsewhere listening to Rush, but seriously figure that one would have to be quite zonked out to listen to a band with a made up language and think "wow this makes real sense".  Quite frankly I am sick and tired of being continuously insulted by avant prog fans.  It is a****le comments like that that truly give prog fans the bad name.  I am really seriously wondering why I keep coming back to this stupid site.  I really have no business being here anymore with the current batch of regulars.  I am like the dudes from Animal House. "Thank you sir can I have another".

rushfan4 wrote: Logan wrote: Vander has said that he employed a made-up language because he was more interested in the sounds than the meanings of words (the vocals are another instrument). Maybe because I mostly listen to instrumental music, and rarely pay attention to lyrics outside of folk music, I have no problem with his choice.   Maturity is not the issue when it comes to preferring one of these bands over the other. I loved Rush when I was teenager hanging out with the zonked kids at school who parked at the back of the school (true), and now as a zonked out middle-aged man who parks in front of a computer screen I prefer Magma. My tastes changed, but I wouldn't call myself more mature now than I was then, just older and more zonked out. Well, according to Mr. or Miss Intruder once one goes through puberty they no longer listen to Rush.  One must assume that he means that listeners to bands like Magma must be more mature.  I've not once been zonked out in the car behind the school or elsewhere listening to Rush, but seriously figure that one would have to be quite zonked out to listen to a band with a made up language and think "wow this makes real sense".  Quite frankly I am sick and tired of being continuously insulted by avant prog fans.  It is ... comments like that that truly give prog fans the bad name.  I am really seriously wondering why I keep coming back to this stupid site.  I really have no business being here anymore with the current batch of regulars.  I am like the dudes from Animal House. "Thank you sir can I have another".

I don't agree that one's preference shows more maturity over the other, and do wish that people would communicate with other more respectfully. Respect our differences. Just because Avant Prog is good for me does not mean that it should be good for you. I think it's immature to be condescending to people based on such tastes. I know people would look down on Prog fans generally for their tastes. It's fine, I think, to state what you don't like something, but not to insult another for liking it (PA does not tolerate personal attacks, so if you ever feel personally attacked, please report to an admin).

One thing, though, we almost all have commonalities in musical interests here, but sometimes the differences become apparent because more biting remarks are made.

An aside, but to me that Vander chose to make up a language does not render the music itself any less sensical than if it was instrumental, in a real language that I don't know, scatted, or, say, from a group like Yes than can use language in odd ways. Maybe Vander was uncomfortable trying to come up with thoughtful lyrics, but the point for me is that the sound of the vocals make sense in relation to the sound of the music. French might not have worked so well to get the right tone, and I wouldn't expect him to try to write in English to make it more readily understandable to us Anglophones.

Anyway, I hope you stick around, for me it's a brilliant site and there should be room for all tastes (provided perhaps that they are not too perverse). If people feel that they are being pushed out due to intolerant opinions and are being attacked for their tastes, then that is a serious matter to look into. We should be quite an inclusive community, and I don't like us or them mentalities. There is so much common ground that we all share though sometimes it takes stepping out of our comfort zones to be appreciative of a lot of it.

Edited by Logan - April 20 2016 at 15:59

Logan wrote: I don't agree that one's preference shows more maturity over the other

I don't think that is entirely true - but in the context of Magma vs Rush acknowledging both would be more mature than arguing as if your favorite band is up against another band in some sports event like a football match. 

Rush

Can, followed by Magma, Rush, VdGG and Gryphon. I enjoy them all though.

I certainly do not want Scott to leave....he and I are the only uneducated, immature, childish, zonked out, pimple face pot smokers who listen to Rush on this site .

No Rush not gonna win not on my watch! VdGG all the way! :D Rush is a nice litle band but dont come close to the epic grandios prog overlords that is the mighty Van der Graaf Generator.


Edited by Zargus - August 09 2016 at 19:56

It's obviously gonna be between VDGG and Magma.   I will not cast any favour in any direction between these 2. I love what Hammill does and I equally love what Vander does.
I love Can with all my heart, Gryphon are cool, and Rush, whilst never providing me with my musical fulfilment, stands as is. Love them all, some more than others, but impossible between VDGG and Magma. I just don't want to sell my soul to either......................sharing is caring............

1 more vote for Richard Harvey and the massed crumhorns and harmoniums