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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 01 2016 at 09:34
Originally posted by brainstormer brainstormer wrote:

Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

This has to be the longest condolence signing in the site's history.


If I could change the past, I would have written him fan letters trying to get him to drop out of the rock and roll world that he seemed to the end trying to please and just focus on scoring, not caring about performing.
I did just that almost a year ago. See my post under 'Interview with Keith's Girlfriend' I thought it was worth sharing with the community. I have no idea if he ever even read it, but I wish it had helped.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 01 2016 at 11:02
Long may this thread continue..
 
I was watching in the beginning DVD the other day wallowing in a bit of nostalgia and there was a segment when KE was asked why he/ELP got so much criticism, and quick as a flash he replied "because we are so good".
 
panache, arrongance, self belief, this must have been his defence against the barbs, and how sad it appears that when his skills started to wane and with the advent of depression his self belief seemed to crumble.
 
There is an incredibly sad youtube clip filmed recently I guess where KE says how much he is looking forward to touring Japan and tries to play a tiny segment of Tarkus on his piano. This is so horribly painful to watch.
 
As KE himself wrote in liner notes for Ars Longa "Tomorrow is yesterday's history and art will still be there, even if life terminates"
 
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 05 2016 at 11:09
I think it's terribly sad about Keith. He did great work in bringing keyboards to the fore in the public mind, following on from Billy Ritchie, but listening to what he actually produced, I don't believe there is anything that will last beyond this generation. Perhaps he realised that too, but even so, he should have been proud of what he did achieve in this life. Desperately poignant and sad.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 06 2016 at 19:52
Originally posted by giselle giselle wrote:

I think it's terribly sad about Keith. He did great work in bringing keyboards to the fore in the public mind, following on from Billy Ritchie, but listening to what he actually produced, I don't believe there is anything that will last beyond this generation. Perhaps he realised that too, but even so, he should have been proud of what he did achieve in this life. Desperately poignant and sad.

What generation are you talking about?   Kids today are thinking he's great on YouTube and orchestras are playing him.  Your comment is a pretty sad way to end a RIP thread. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 06 2016 at 23:58
^ I don't know, she was just being honest about what she thinks.  And though Keith may be getting some posthumous attention, I suspect giselle's observation is largely correct.   Rock is in deep recession if not on its last legs and the movers in rock are slowly fading from contemporary culture as important figures.  A few Eternals still exist ~ Hendrix, Zep, Lennon&McCartney, Neil Young, etc ~ but music and its consumption has changed to where rock innovators are much less appreciated or even known.  Show me a non-musician in their 20s who knows who Dave Gilmour or Keith Moon is and I'll show you someone whose parents listened to classic rock.  But that's about it.





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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 07 2016 at 03:08
I agree that the comment appeared back handed.  Keith's unfortunate death was reported on the main UK news bulletins; that was a testament to the man's enormous influence across the generations.  I noted that even 'trendy' producers such as Mark Ronson also paid tribute to him.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 07 2016 at 16:45
Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

^ I don't know, she was just being honest about what she thinks.  And though Keith may be getting some posthumous attention, I suspect giselle's observation is largely correct.   Rock is in deep recession if not on its last legs and the movers in rock are slowly fading from contemporary culture as important figures.  A few Eternals still exist ~ Hendrix, Zep, Lennon&McCartney, Neil Young, etc ~ but music and its consumption has changed to where rock innovators are much less appreciated or even known.  Show me a non-musician in their 20s who knows who Dave Gilmour or Keith Moon is and I'll show you someone whose parents listened to classic rock.  But that's about it.





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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 07 2016 at 19:55
There's always been a major divided consensus about Emerson's value, which clearly wasn't limited to "rock."  He somewhat tried to liberate people from it.   
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 07 2016 at 20:32
Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

^ I don't know, she was just being honest about what she thinks.  And though Keith may be getting some posthumous attention, I suspect giselle's observation is largely correct.   Rock is in deep recession if not on its last legs and the movers in rock are slowly fading from contemporary culture as important figures.  A few Eternals still exist ~ Hendrix, Zep, Lennon&McCartney, Neil Young, etc ~ but music and its consumption has changed to where rock innovators are much less appreciated or even known.  Show me a non-musician in their 20s who knows who Dave Gilmour or Keith Moon is and I'll show you someone whose parents listened to classic rock.  But that's about it.




Gilmour is playing in full stadiums all over the world, and he's not even playing with the band that made him famous. I think he belongs in that first group.


Still I think ELP are a band that will last, they will not be mega popular, but only a few groups are, they'll always have an important following nonetheless. I've seen several people I know posting about Emerson's death on Facebook when it happened (all in their mid/early 20's).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 07 2016 at 20:55
Originally posted by TheLionOfPrague TheLionOfPrague wrote:

Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

^ I don't know, she was just being honest about what she thinks.  And though Keith may be getting some posthumous attention, I suspect giselle's observation is largely correct.   Rock is in deep recession if not on its last legs and the movers in rock are slowly fading from contemporary culture as important figures.  A few Eternals still exist ~ Hendrix, Zep, Lennon&McCartney, Neil Young, etc ~ but music and its consumption has changed to where rock innovators are much less appreciated or even known.  Show me a non-musician in their 20s who knows who Dave Gilmour or Keith Moon is and I'll show you someone whose parents listened to classic rock.  But that's about it.
Gilmour is playing in full stadiums all over the world, and he's not even playing with the band that made him famous. I think he belongs in that first group.
Playing in full stadiums around the world to old, old people whose musical tastes are increasingly irrelevant.

Originally posted by TheLionOfPrague TheLionOfPrague wrote:

Still I think ELP are a band that will last, they will not be mega popular, but only a few groups are, they'll always have an important following nonetheless. I've seen several people I know posting about Emerson's death on Facebook when it happened (all in their mid/early 20's).
Several people in their mid/early 20s who have an unusual grasp of rock history .. and I'm guessing musicians.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 07 2016 at 21:00
Originally posted by brainstormer brainstormer wrote:

There's always been a major divided consensus about Emerson's value, which clearly wasn't limited to "rock."  He somewhat tried to liberate people from it.   

Emerson's value may not have been limited to rock, but his influence was, and while Prog rock did impact the commercial/Commercial Trade music of the mid-70s that impact was as much from Yes and Genesis.  

And I don't know if can agree that Emerson tried to liberate people from rock.   He tried to liberate rock, but not people from it.





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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 08 2016 at 17:25
Maybe it was the wrong kind of magazine, but was dismayed to see a tiny column about Keith Emerson's death in this months Q Magazine.
Maybe the more specialist magazine are preparing their tributes, but I think with the material he produced in his life time, he deserves a dedicated collector's issue!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 09 2016 at 11:09
^I would hope a mag along the lines of Mojo would do it.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 09 2016 at 12:38
Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

Originally posted by brainstormer brainstormer wrote:

There's always been a major divided consensus about Emerson's value, which clearly wasn't limited to "rock."  He somewhat tried to liberate people from it.   

Emerson's value may not have been limited to rock, but his influence was, and while Prog rock did impact the commercial/Commercial Trade music of the mid-70s that impact was as much from Yes and Genesis.  

And I don't know if can agree that Emerson tried to liberate people from rock.   He tried to liberate rock, but not people from it.




Exactly, to liberate rock. He was a genius in many things.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 27 2016 at 20:17
I know this is a really old thread by now. I'm not a new fan of ELP, just new to this site.

I've never seen ELP or Keith Emerson, but I've loved the music since I was a kid.

I have seen Rick Wright with Pink Floyd and Jon Lord with Deep Purple.

I'm going to see Anderson, Rabin, Wakeman this fall.

RIP Keith! I wish I would've had the chance to see you.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 27 2016 at 20:44
I was just thinking of him today.  Terrible.   He had kids.   The poor man.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 27 2016 at 22:08
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I was just thinking of him today.  Terrible.   He had kids.   The poor man.




He did? I thought he had just his girlfriend. I never saw any mention of them or from them when he died, strange. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 27 2016 at 22:29
I thought he did, maybe they were stepkids.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 27 2016 at 23:09
Originally posted by TheLionOfPrague TheLionOfPrague wrote:

Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

I was just thinking of him today.  Terrible.   He had kids.   The poor man.




He did? I thought he had just his girlfriend. I never saw any mention of them or from them when he died, strange. 
They were from his wife Elinor who he divorced in 1992 or 1993. One son Aaron is also a keyboardist. The other son whose name I forgot is not in music. They're both probably in their 40s.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 28 2016 at 01:46
Originally posted by lak611 lak611 wrote:

RIP Keith! I wish I would've had the chance to see you.

I was fortunate enough to see ELP five times over the years (including once as ELPowell), but the last time I saw Keith was with the Nice in London on the 2002 reunion tour. I got to meet Lee Jackson and Brian Davison after the show, but didn't get a chance to meet Keith.

If anyone's interested, I composed this tribute to Keith when he passed:

https://soundcloud.com/michael-p-dawson/fanfare-for-an-uncommon-man
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