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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 25 2016 at 16:00
Plus- The Seven Deadly Sins
Jack Nitzsche- St. Giles Cripplegate
Alan Parsons Project- Tales of Mystery and Imagination.  The Fall of the House of Usher is inspired by Debussy, who considered writing an opera on the story.
Art of Noise- The Seduction of Claude Debussy.
 
are we considering bands like Gryphon or Third Ear Band?
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 25 2016 at 16:08
Originally posted by ALotOfBottle ALotOfBottle wrote:

Originally posted by kenethlevine kenethlevine wrote:

Originally posted by presdoug presdoug wrote:

Some great ones already mentioned; thought I'd add-
             Triumvirat, Latte e Miele, Wallenstein, Beggar's Opera, Pell Mell.

love Pell Mell!  All their first 4 albums are worth having, even if I think they made a bit of a mess of "From the New World".  Plenty of quotes from the greats but also stuff that sounds like it was ripped off of a classical composer but maybe wasn't, and that's a compliment.

Then there is Renaissance of course.  Michael Dunford was the main composer during their peak period, and he was well steeped in the Romantic classical tradition

I think I am missing out on Renaissance, some of the stuff I listened to I didn't find all that pleasing. What albums are recommended?

well, it depends whom you ask  Wink

Renaissance has 2 distinct lineups.  The first version released 2 albums, s/t and Illusion.  They get a lot of respect on here

The second version is the better known, and it's the one with MIchael Dunford full time and Annie Haslam, the singer who is the only remaining member from the lineup that released a string of charting albums between 1972 and 1979.

I would suggest to go chronologically, starting with Prologue, then Ashes are Burning, Turn of the Cards, Sheherazade, Novella, and a Song for all Seasons.  My favorite is the latter, but it helps to have heard the others to appreciate it more.  There are MANY live albums, suffice to say you need to hear at least one 20 minute version of "Ashes are Burning" done live.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 25 2016 at 16:08
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I think I am missing out on Renaissance, some of the stuff I listened to I didn't find all that pleasing. What albums are recommended?
 
Turn of the Cards and Scheherazade
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 25 2016 at 16:48
^^^^as far as Renaissance goes, I have only heard Novella Epoque, which I like, will have to investigate further.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 25 2016 at 18:56
Originally posted by Guy Guden Guy Guden wrote:

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I think I am missing out on Renaissance, some of the stuff I listened to I didn't find all that pleasing. What albums are recommended?
 
Turn of the Cards and Scheherazade


Turn of the Cards sucks LOL Like a Genesis album.. YAWN!!!!!!  No fire man...

if you want to try to hook someone on Renaissance.. go with Scherazade. If Trip to the Fair doesn't get them.. nothing will.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 25 2016 at 22:02
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Originally posted by Guy Guden Guy Guden wrote:

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I think I am missing out on Renaissance, some of the stuff I listened to I didn't find all that pleasing. What albums are recommended?
 
Turn of the Cards and Scheherazade


Turn of the Cards sucks LOL Like a Genesis album.. YAWN!!!!!!  No fire man...

if you want to try to hook someone on Renaissance.. go with Scherazade. If Trip to the Fair doesn't get them.. nothing will.

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I dunno, side 2 of Turn of the Cards simply wallops everything on Sheherazade except for your storied "trip to the Fair"  Embarrassed
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 25 2016 at 23:47
From the world of prog-related/hard rock, there are classical influences on Deep Purple's Prelude: Happiness/I'm So Glad (intro based on Rimsky-Korsakov's Scheherazade), Hey Joe (intro based on Manuel de Falla's ballet El sombrero de tres picos), Exposition - We Can Work It Out (intro based on Beethoven and Tchaikovsky), Anthem, Concerto for Group and Orchestra, and the superb April, Uriah Heep's Salisbury and Rainbow's Stargazer and Difficult to Cure (based on Beethoven's Ode to Joy).

I also recommend Jon Lord's Sarabande, another rock band and orchestra experiment in the vein of Concerto for Group and Orchestra, but the rock group is much more integrated with the orchestra.


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Absolutely positively without a doubt The Enid - get the first four albums, think classical music but with rock instruments and that's basically it.

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Hey, by the way, is Renaissance's Scheherezade based on Rimsky-Korsakov's work of the same title?

Very cool, suggestions, thank you very, very much, guys! Probably shouldn't admitt it, but I had never heard about The Enid until you guys told me about it. Big smile

Now that I'm looking back Procol Harum is also quite classical-influenced, not only in The Whiter Shade Of Pale. Thanks for reminding me of Gryphon, also!

This is some proto-proggy material.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 26 2016 at 06:12
Surprised no-one has mentioned Rhapsody(of Fire) so far. All of their albums strongly feature orchestras.
Their second album Symphony of Enchanted lands is a good starting point.
They were originally called Rhapsody but then due to legal reason had to change their name so they added
 on Fire to their name
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 26 2016 at 08:29
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 26 2016 at 09:03
Aranis springs to mind. So does The Enid, Art Zoyd and Allah's Mailman Wassup or what'stheirname.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 26 2016 at 09:06
Originally posted by ALotOfBottle ALotOfBottle wrote:

Hey, by the way, is Renaissance's Scheherezade based on Rimsky-Korsakov's work of the same title?

apparently not, other than maybe a few notes.  But "Cold is Being" on Turn of the Cards is based on Albinoni's Adagio.  And rather chillingly beautiful I may add


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 26 2016 at 09:23
Originally posted by kenethlevine kenethlevine wrote:

Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Originally posted by Guy Guden Guy Guden wrote:

Originally posted by ALotOfBottle ALotOfBottle wrote:


I think I am missing out on Renaissance, some of the stuff I listened to I didn't find all that pleasing. What albums are recommended?
 
Turn of the Cards and Scheherazade


Turn of the Cards sucks LOL Like a Genesis album.. YAWN!!!!!!  No fire man...

if you want to try to hook someone on Renaissance.. go with Scherazade. If Trip to the Fair doesn't get them.. nothing will.

Perfection Heart

I dunno, side 2 of Turn of the Cards simply wallops everything on Sheherazade except for your storied "trip to the Fair"  Embarrassed


hah...really? I fell asleep during the show in which they did Turn of the Cards in its entirety.  Guess it wasn't an album I really connected with. Embarrassed
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 26 2016 at 10:07
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Originally posted by kenethlevine kenethlevine wrote:

Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Originally posted by Guy Guden Guy Guden wrote:

Originally posted by ALotOfBottle ALotOfBottle wrote:


I think I am missing out on Renaissance, some of the stuff I listened to I didn't find all that pleasing. What albums are recommended?
 
Turn of the Cards and Scheherazade


Turn of the Cards sucks LOL Like a Genesis album.. YAWN!!!!!!  No fire man...

if you want to try to hook someone on Renaissance.. go with Scherazade. If Trip to the Fair doesn't get them.. nothing will.

Perfection Heart

I dunno, side 2 of Turn of the Cards simply wallops everything on Sheherazade except for your storied "trip to the Fair"  Embarrassed


hah...really? I fell asleep during the show in which they did Turn of the Cards in its entirety.  Guess it wasn't an album I really connected with. Embarrassed

maybe you were asleep already from side 1 and never got to hear the tour de force of side 2?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 26 2016 at 10:16
either that or I woken up and had left the auditorium to hit the beer vendors in peace and quiet till they came back on with the Scheherazade album. I don't remember side 2 that is for sure..

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Does the theme in the opening of this piece sound anything familiar to you? Big smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 26 2016 at 14:25
Originally posted by ALotOfBottle ALotOfBottle wrote:



Does the theme in the opening of this piece sound anything familiar to you? Big smile


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Pazzo Fanfano Di Musica!



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