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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 02 2015 at 05:48
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Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

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Many members have been issued a collaborator status due to their contributions i.e. reviews and/or posting actions. This is well deserved. 
Besides all this, collaborators on PA should have the best interest when it comes to this site in mind,thus I suggest that there should be a method that all bands added on here to PA should thereafter have at least one review written by a collaborator. All collaborators should be in the running to be selected to write a review at any given time for the sake and benefit of this site.  This is not about egos or divas, it's about the best interest of P.A. 
Nope. It's a noble idea but impossible to administer, just as it is impossible to expect that the person who initially suggested the band should also contribute a written review for their nominated artist, (though if there is someone who should, then surely the person who was so desperate for the bands to be added should contribute more than a 5-star rating... but maybe that's just me who has such expectations). 

Adding bands by collaborator teams is an impartial endeavour - the teams do not have to like a band or any of their albums to add them, so forcing them to then write a review could be counter-productive and detrimental, so that leaves putting out a general call to all collabs in the vague hope that one of them will be sufficiently motivated... and if no one is, what then? We force someone? That ain't gonna happen either.Stern Smile


Dean you are being very snotty right now, the question here was about bands who are added here on PA however don't get reviewed. 
  
I take back what I said actually, you made a good point there nothing positive can come out of forced or being obligated. That's true! Uhm interesting really Ermm
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 02 2015 at 05:54
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 02 2015 at 05:58
I am a nincompoop and I very happy one at it too! I too am one to admit that sometimes ideas do not necessary are as good as I thought they could be. I am always open to discussion and this time I admit my suggestion has to many flaws really Confused arghhhh.... I changed my mind now. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 02 2015 at 05:59
I am a nincompoop and I very happy one at it too! I too am one to admit that sometimes ideas do not necessary are as good as I thought they could be. I am always open to discussion and this time I admit my suggestion has to many flaws really Confused arghhhh.... I changed my mind now. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 02 2015 at 05:59
Originally posted by Kati Kati wrote:

Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by Kati Kati wrote:

Many members have been issued a collaborator status due to their contributions i.e. reviews and/or posting actions. This is well deserved. 
Besides all this, collaborators on PA should have the best interest when it comes to this site in mind,thus I suggest that there should be a method that all bands added on here to PA should thereafter have at least one review written by a collaborator. All collaborators should be in the running to be selected to write a review at any given time for the sake and benefit of this site.  This is not about egos or divas, it's about the best interest of P.A. 
Nope. It's a noble idea but impossible to administer, just as it is impossible to expect that the person who initially suggested the band should also contribute a written review for their nominated artist, (though if there is someone who should, then surely the person who was so desperate for the bands to be added should contribute more than a 5-star rating... but maybe that's just me who has such expectations). 

Adding bands by collaborator teams is an impartial endeavour - the teams do not have to like a band or any of their albums to add them, so forcing them to then write a review could be counter-productive and detrimental, so that leaves putting out a general call to all collabs in the vague hope that one of them will be sufficiently motivated... and if no one is, what then? We force someone? That ain't gonna happen either.Stern Smile


Dean you are being very snotty right now, the question here was about bands who are added here on PA however don't get reviewed. 

Who's being snotty... I answered your post honestly and fairly, without being snotty or disrespectful. If a band gets added then that is the best time to get a review written because if there is absolutely no interest in the band at that point then there never will be.

There is a list of albums sans review that all can see and review any album they chose: www.progarchives.com/UnreviewedAlbums.asp 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 02 2015 at 06:02
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by Kati Kati wrote:

Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by Kati Kati wrote:

Many members have been issued a collaborator status due to their contributions i.e. reviews and/or posting actions. This is well deserved. 
Besides all this, collaborators on PA should have the best interest when it comes to this site in mind,thus I suggest that there should be a method that all bands added on here to PA should thereafter have at least one review written by a collaborator. All collaborators should be in the running to be selected to write a review at any given time for the sake and benefit of this site.  This is not about egos or divas, it's about the best interest of P.A. 
Nope. It's a noble idea but impossible to administer, just as it is impossible to expect that the person who initially suggested the band should also contribute a written review for their nominated artist, (though if there is someone who should, then surely the person who was so desperate for the bands to be added should contribute more than a 5-star rating... but maybe that's just me who has such expectations). 

Adding bands by collaborator teams is an impartial endeavour - the teams do not have to like a band or any of their albums to add them, so forcing them to then write a review could be counter-productive and detrimental, so that leaves putting out a general call to all collabs in the vague hope that one of them will be sufficiently motivated... and if no one is, what then? We force someone? That ain't gonna happen either.Stern Smile


Dean you are being very snotty right now, the question here was about bands who are added here on PA however don't get reviewed. 

Who's being snotty... I answered your post honestly and fairly, without being snotty or disrespectful. If a band gets added then that is the best time to get a review written because if there is absolutely no interest in the band at that point then there never will be.

There is a list of albums sans review that all can see and review any album they chose: www.progarchives.com/UnreviewedAlbums.asp 
It was me who actually obviously was being snotty, I am sorry Dean Smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 02 2015 at 06:26
Sonia, writing a good review is very hard work, even if you're writing in your native language. I got burned out several times in the past because of the pace I was keeping. Now I am starting to get back into the business, but in the first few months of this year I sometimes was unable to write a coherent post - let alone a full, 800-word review. Life does have a habit of getting in the way of the things we enjoy, and stress normally does not have a positive effect on inspiration.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 02 2015 at 06:32
Originally posted by Raff Raff wrote:

Sonia, writing a good review is very hard work, even if you're writing in your native language. I got burned out several times in the past because of the pace I was keeping. Now I am starting to get back into the business, but in the first few months of this year I sometimes was unable to write a coherent post - let alone a full, 800-word review. Life does have a habit of getting in the way of the things we enjoy, and stress normally does not have a positive effect on inspiration.
I understand what you mean Raff, this post was a very naive idea, after most comments I too came to realize that it is not black and white. BTW the recent review you wrote about the new Tea Club I read recently from your site is  Clap  


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 02 2015 at 06:36
I'm with Dean on this one, I don't particularly like writing reviews as I find it hard to translate my feelings into words sometimes. It's easier if I really like or hate an album but not if it's a middle of the road 3 star one.
I've written around 100 reviews and will do the occasional one when I come across something that merits praise (or a good sl*g.ing).
Being "selected" to write a review would not work.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 02 2015 at 06:42
Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

I'm with Dean on this one, I don't particularly like writing reviews as I find it hard to translate my feelings into words sometimes. It's easier if I really like or hate an album but not if it's a middle of the road 3 star one.
I've written around 100 reviews and will do the occasional one when I come across something that merits praise (or a good sl*g.ing).
Being "selected" to write a review would not work.
I don't envy any of you, Chopper.
I cannot write reviews and when i give my best attempt mine go on forever, even i get tired when have to spell check them, only get to half way reading it LOL
Yep I am terrible at it Big smileHug
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 02 2015 at 07:06
I still think and believe that Lucas review was mishandled with a lack of consideration in a very insensitive manner tho'.
You guys are certainly not the most friendliest bunch are you? I am used to this fact but this latest action even shocked me.  
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 02 2015 at 12:40
Originally posted by Kati Kati wrote:

I still think and believe that Lucas review was mishandled with a lack of consideration in a very insensitive manner tho'.
You guys are certainly not the most friendliest bunch are you? I am used to this fact but this latest action even shocked me.  
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Here's some free advice: calm it down or keep it to one thread. Why sour this one with a completely unrelated comment such as this? But since you have and since you persist in running-down the work that people do here: Could it have been handled differently? Yes. Would the outcome have been any different? No. Could Lucas have approached it differently? Yes. Would the outcome have been any different? Yes.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 02 2015 at 12:43
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by Kati Kati wrote:

I still think and believe that Lucas review was mishandled with a lack of consideration in a very insensitive manner tho'.
You guys are certainly not the most friendliest bunch are you? I am used to this fact but this latest action even shocked me.  
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Here's some free advice: calm it down or keep it to one thread. Why sour this one with a completely unrelated comment such as this? But since you have and since you persist in running-down the work that people do here: Could it have been handled differently? Yes. Would the outcome have been any different? No. Could Lucas have approached it differently? Yes. Would the outcome have been any different? Yes.

Dean, I was commenting on both treads simultaneously and by mistake (here above) I posted on the wrong one. I do not need your advise and do not patronize me. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 02 2015 at 12:47
Originally posted by Kati Kati wrote:

 I do not need your advise and do not patronize me. 
Advise is the verb, advice is the noun. Tongue
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 02 2015 at 12:53
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by Kati Kati wrote:

 I do not need your advise and do not patronize me. 
Advise is the verb, advice is the noun. Tongue

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 02 2015 at 13:38
Unfortunately, due to the sheer volume of bands on the site a lot of them will never be reviewed. There just isn't the time, money or inclination to go through them all. The forum is better suited to sharing bands who you think deserve more exposure.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 02 2015 at 14:13
I just wrote a review!  Shocked
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 02 2015 at 14:23
Originally posted by A Person A Person wrote:

Unfortunately, due to the sheer volume of bands on the site a lot of them will never be reviewed. There just isn't the time, money or inclination to go through them all.
This is another key point. Collabs can only review albums they have either purchased (or legitimate freebie review copies thereof), or albums that are free-releases. We cannot be seen to review illegal downloads or dubious youtube albums.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 02 2015 at 14:23
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I just wrote a review!  Shocked


And a very nice one tooClap!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 02 2015 at 14:24
Originally posted by Raff Raff wrote:

Originally posted by Padraic Padraic wrote:

I just wrote a review!  Shocked


And a very nice one tooClap!


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