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Kati ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 10 2010 Location: Earth Status: Offline Points: 6253 |
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Many members have been issued a collaborator status due to their contributions i.e. reviews and/or posting actions. This is well deserved.
Besides all this, collaborators on PA should have the best interest when it comes to this site in mind,thus I suggest that there should be a method that all bands added on here to PA should thereafter have at least one review written by a collaborator. All collaborators should be in the running to be selected to write a review at any given time for the sake and benefit of this site. This is not about egos or divas, it's about the best interest of P.A.
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Sheavy ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: March 28 2010 Location: Alabama Status: Offline Points: 2866 |
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As you stated some collabs were chosen because of their forum posts rather than reviews, some collaborators haven't ever written a review for this site. Reviewing albums for this site is something people do for enjoyment, turning it into a task and forcing people through random choosing can't be in the interest of PA.
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Kati ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 10 2010 Location: Earth Status: Offline Points: 6253 |
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Sheavy, I would think that any collaborator would be happy to assist the best they can to help to improve this site, also writing a review should come as second nature to them and you
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infocat ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: June 10 2011 Location: Colorado, USA Status: Offline Points: 4671 |
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Kati ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 10 2010 Location: Earth Status: Offline Points: 6253 |
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Awwww
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Atavachron ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: September 30 2006 Location: Pearland Status: Online Points: 65637 |
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The reality is always a little different once you're in it. I remember years ago someone claiming it only takes "five minutes to add a band, so why the long wait?". Then he became a collab and realized there was a lot more to it than the simple act of uploading the info-- the artist must be researched thoroughly; contacted if missing info is needed; a well-written bio must then be made; materials like photos, discogs, etc. must be obtained. The whole process actually takes a total of several hours of concentrated work time.
It's the same with reviews (just multiplied many times because it's whole discographies and not just bands). It's hard, real work to create a fluid, informative and competent write-up, especially if, as you point out, the good of the site is in mind. And Sheavy's point is well taken: It is indeed true that not all collabs are comfortable with or even care much about writing a review. They do their magic in other equally important ways-- the PA Gremlins ! |
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Windhawk ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: December 28 2006 Location: Norway Status: Offline Points: 11401 |
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Adding an artist isn't always that time consuming. I would typically use around 30 minutes for a one album artist from harvest gathering started until the artist was added. But for multiple album artists with a long career...Motorpsycho took me the better part of a day if I recall correctly...
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Kati ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 10 2010 Location: Earth Status: Offline Points: 6253 |
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Atavachron, awww ![]() ![]() Awww Atavachron, you are awesome tho' and also so different. All i said is not meant to you, you are sweet and funny even if you have disagreed with me at times you are adorable and always been most nice to me and others hahahaha mhwoaaahhxxxxxxxxxxxx you are just too awesome really
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Kati ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 10 2010 Location: Earth Status: Offline Points: 6253 |
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Olav, you make it sound so simple
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rogerthat ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() Joined: September 03 2006 Location: . Status: Offline Points: 9869 |
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Ah, perhaps that has more to do with some people preferring not to think before they comment rather than their collab/non collab status.
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Kati ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 10 2010 Location: Earth Status: Offline Points: 6253 |
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Good point there too. rogerthat
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Sheavy ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: March 28 2010 Location: Alabama Status: Offline Points: 2866 |
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But second nature it simply isn't for everyone, some people are better at writing reviews than others. Being a collaborator does not mean that person is good at writing reviews (not to say that most do tend to be though imho ![]() It's not that any collab doesn't have PA's best interest in mind, some collaborators don't have the extra time to write reviews or the inclination to write them, which is perfectly fine. I currently don't have much inclination to write any reviews and in fact I'm not particularly proud of the few reviews I've written that I haven't deleted, and I've kept them mostly due to someone wanting me to keep a few of the ones I thought were decent. I've said multiple times that I'd get back into reviewing hoping that saying that would actually help get me to do it, but it has yet to do so. ![]() ![]() |
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Kati ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 10 2010 Location: Earth Status: Offline Points: 6253 |
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Awww Sheavy, I understand what you say and you changed my mind too now. Where I was coming from is that sometimes collabs are focussed on the wrong things and if they atleast wrote more reviews they would understand better but as you said this is not necessary true too. I admit I am a nincompoop and at times speak out even when it does not concern me
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rdtprog ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Heavy, RPI, Symph, JR/F Canterbury Teams Joined: April 04 2009 Location: Mtl, QC Status: Offline Points: 5404 |
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We should start from the beginning, it takes more time to get votes on each bands, adding a new band with one or two albums doesn't take much time like Olav said, i can only imagine how much time it could take to add a band only if we got a review.
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Meltdowner ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: June 25 2013 Location: Portugal Status: Offline Points: 10279 |
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I was never much of a writer (not even in Portuguese), although I make an effort to write some bios. I could write a review for Sequentia Legenda if everyone would shut up about it though...
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Kati ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 10 2010 Location: Earth Status: Offline Points: 6253 |
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rdtprog! Wow! Hello!!! Yay! big hug ![]() more
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Kati ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 10 2010 Location: Earth Status: Offline Points: 6253 |
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Meltdowner ![]() ![]() ![]() Awww go on write and please do review for Sequentia Legenda (I am curious as I don't know them)? I promise I will keep my big mouth shut
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Dean ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout Joined: May 13 2007 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 37575 |
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Yup - only write reviews if you enjoy it, it's a hobby not a job - I've only written six reviews because I don't enjoy writing them. Now that I no longer have access to the relevant information on the Admin Panel as far as I can tell from looking through the Collab page only two collabs have never written a review: the two "Site Webmasters", Max and Philippe (graphix) - there may be others who have a Reviews-count that consists of rating-only but that's something I cannot tell without looking at each profile in turn. Some interesting statistics: In total the 301 collaborators (i.e. all 4 and 5 star members) have contributed 105,379 reviews to the site. Of those 105,379 only 47,584 were contributed by Prog Reviews; 7,735 were from 4-star collaborators and 50,060 by 5-star Special Collabs and Admins. |
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Dean ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout Joined: May 13 2007 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 37575 |
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Nope. It's a noble idea but impossible to administer, just as it is impossible to expect that the person who initially suggested the band should also contribute a written review for their nominated artist, (though if there is someone who should, then surely the person who was so desperate for the bands to be added should contribute more than a 5-star rating... but maybe that's just me who has such expectations). Adding bands by collaborator teams is an impartial endeavour - the teams do not have to like a band or any of their albums to add them, so forcing them to then write a review could be counter-productive and detrimental, so that leaves putting out a general call to all collabs in the vague hope that one of them will be sufficiently motivated... and if no one is, what then? We force someone? That ain't gonna happen either. ![]() |
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Kati ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 10 2010 Location: Earth Status: Offline Points: 6253 |
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Dean you are being very snotty right now, the question here was about bands who are added here on PA however don't get reviewed. |
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