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Saperlipopette! 
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 Posted: September 17 2015 at 02:26 |
 aglasshouse wrote:
Satanism is underrated. Christianity, always up there but man Satanism? Always low on the charts. They got Neal Morse man what do we got? |
Come on! What would hipsters go for - Black Metal or Christian Rock?
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emigre80
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Posted: September 16 2015 at 18:06 |
SteveG wrote:
Can we argue over religion now?  |
I was under the impression (from frequenting this website) that prog rock is a religion and we were already arguing about it.
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aglasshouse
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Posted: September 16 2015 at 18:03 |
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Satanism is underrated. Christianity, always up there but man Satanism? Always low on the charts. They got Neal Morse man what do we got?
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Saperlipopette!
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Posted: September 16 2015 at 17:57 |
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Paganism is the most underrated religion imo. Which one is the most overrated? Satanism? Satan is surely not the worst you can believe in but that's beside the point. I even tend to overrate him a little myself.
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GKR
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Posted: September 16 2015 at 17:09 |
SteveG wrote:
Can we argue over religion now? |
THERE IS NO GOD! [flies away]
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- From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.
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The Dark Elf
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Posted: September 16 2015 at 17:06 |
SteveG wrote:
Can we argue over religion now? |
Yes, considering the theme of this thread is simply a modification of the Floyd v. Yes v. Genesis v. King Crimson eternal prog poll cliché, arguing about religion, itself a shibboleth of infinite proportions, has already been established.
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...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined
to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology...
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SteveG
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Posted: September 16 2015 at 16:25 |
Can we argue over religion now?
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Saperlipopette!
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Posted: September 16 2015 at 16:13 |
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^I'm sure you'd tried to get your point across using similar strategies (hopefully with greater success. My intentions was far from wanting to discuss politics)
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Raff
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Posted: September 16 2015 at 15:41 |
Saperlipopette! wrote:
^If you really want to know reading the thread always helps. But although I was the one who brought up ideologies as a metaphor, I doubt its worth your time. |
I have read the thread, so mine was largely a rhetorical question.
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Saperlipopette!
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Posted: September 16 2015 at 15:31 |
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^If you really want to know reading the thread always helps. But although I was the one who brought up ideologies as a metaphor, I doubt its worth your time.
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Raff
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Posted: September 16 2015 at 15:20 |
What's politics got to do with this thread ?
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Bitterblogger
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Posted: September 16 2015 at 15:01 |
Such personal offense taken by who I consider hyper-sensitive individuals. I'm certain that no one wished this thread to devolve into childish name-calling. Seems straightforward to me: of these classics, which is less a cornerstone of the prog rock pantheon--if any--and argue the point. But perhaps old-fashioned debate without personal attacks is more than one can expect, even from the intelligence I routinely encounter on this site. I picked DSOTM because I find most of what follows Time less than stellar, and "Any Colour You Like" meandering filler.
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Saperlipopette!
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Posted: September 16 2015 at 01:18 |
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Well, perhaps I don't have the same experience you have, nor have I studied much about comunism or socialism, |
Of course you haven't got the same experience that I have - still your knowledge and experience are basically the two things you got to rate the value of any art. You can't seek so-called objectivity in other ways. Well, obviously you can by simply copy&paste historical facts and general consensus but then your opinion isn't really yours and has no personal value=irrelevant. There's no point joining a discussion if you're just a copy machine and if you don't have something resembling an opinion there's certainly no point responding to you. There's simply less fun if "I'm right and the rest of you are wrong" isn't allowed.
Your (mine or svetonios) opinion of communism or other perfect tools for tyrants isn't the point. I used it as examples for believing and claiming that you are right (while others are wrong) is ok - in any given context. A lot of my opponents here says this is arrogant and that its basically the same as calling everyone who disagrees with you idiots. I think they are the extreme ones - not me. But we'll never agree. So instead of having a jolly good time bickering about which one of these progclassics is the most overrated and why, we have ourselves yet another metadiscussion.
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Rednight
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Posted: September 15 2015 at 23:11 |
Otto9999 wrote:
Rednight wrote:
gloriousgoldfish wrote:
Otto9999 wrote:
Foxtrot, as nearly thoroughly Genesis music, is overrrated. Genesis epitomizes everything about boring rock to me, Phil Collins' disco Genesis though is another story...  |
We got ourselves a comedian. |
Collins' disco Genesis? I somehow must have missed that release(s). |
Hmmmm  ... No reply at all.. man, all yours the so called symph prog rock Genesis (  ) , mine is just exciting music, the most pop Genesis of course, and we're all happy 
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Oh, that made sense.
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"It just has none of the qualities of your work that I find interesting. Abandon [?] it." - Eno
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Dellinger
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Posted: September 15 2015 at 21:46 |
Saperlipopette! wrote:
Dellinger wrote:
Now, of course, if you go to the point of saying that a madman dictator is wrong at killing everyone who doesn't fit his idea the right race, of course I agree with you, anyone doing massacres will be wrong and on that one there's no way to convince me otherwise. As for communists... I don't really think that either communists nor capitalists are entirely wrong, I rather think that it's the people that lead such ideologies, the people at the government, who are wrong when they abuse them and take advantage of their position for their own benefit. |
Communism is overrated. I can see to a certain extent why it made sense among some westerners in the 1940's and possibly up to the 1970's but people should seriously know better in 2015. Believing that you are right should obviously be based on experience and knowledge. My experience and knowledge is what I trust whether it regards Aquarium, You're Under Arrest or madman dictators. They all suck in various degrees and anyone who disagrees with me are dead wrong. |
Well, perhaps I don't have the same experience you have, nor have I studied much about comunism or socialism, however I believe the great problem of those systems is that they give too much power to the government... they are suposed to be the ones to distribute the wealth more equaly, but in the end they control too much of the life of the people, and who's to say that they will really distribute the wealth equally?
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Dayvenkirq
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Posted: September 15 2015 at 21:26 |
Otto9999 wrote:
Rednight wrote:
gloriousgoldfish wrote:
Otto9999 wrote:
Foxtrot, as nearly thoroughly Genesis music, is overrrated. Genesis epitomizes everything about boring rock to me, Phil Collins' disco Genesis though is another story...
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We got ourselves a comedian. |
Collins' disco Genesis? I somehow must have missed that release(s). |
Hmmmm ... No reply at all.. man, all yours the so called symph prog rock Genesis ( ) , mine is just exciting music, the most pop Genesis of course, and we're all happy |
How is "No Reply At All" disco? It's not funk-influenced.
Edited by Dayvenkirq - September 15 2015 at 21:26
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aglasshouse
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Posted: September 15 2015 at 20:11 |
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Court of the Crimson King of course! No doubt.
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emigre80
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Posted: September 15 2015 at 19:00 |
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I'm still 100% convinced that if something is voted as the most overrated it immediately means that it is not overrated. |
You certainly have a point, but on the other hand I would hardly call the folks on this site a representative sample that would provide a balanced result.
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Smurph
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Posted: September 15 2015 at 18:44 |
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I'm still 100% convinced that if something is voted as the most overrated it immediately means that it is not overrated.
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Otto9999
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Posted: September 15 2015 at 18:31 |
Removed due to PA's deliberated act of deleting threads as alleged featuring negative behaviour posts towards others.
Edited by Otto9999 - October 31 2015 at 11:31
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