Most overrated album No. 1

Saperlipopette! wrote: Dellinger wrote: Now, of course, if you go to the point of saying that a madman dictator is wrong at killing everyone who doesn't fit his idea the right race, of course I agree with you, anyone doing massacres will be wrong and on that one there's no way to convince me otherwise. As for communists... I don't really think that either communists nor capitalists are entirely wrong, I rather think that it's the people that lead such ideologies, the people at the government, who are wrong when they abuse them and take advantage of their position for their own benefit. Communism is overrated. (...)

Communism couldn't be overrated nor underrated due to the fact that the Communism never existed as a political and economical system in any country.

Edited by Svetonio - September 15 2015 at 13:23

Saperlipopette! wrote: ^You overrate yourself

Ah, no one on this planet has such an objective attitude about the things around us, as you and your people from Tommorowland have it.

Nothing overrated here.

Dellinger wrote: No, it's not arrogant to believe in your own opinion. What's arrogant is to believe that those who don't agree with you are wrong.

I don't think that's what overrated means, exactly. When talking about "overrated" you refer to a collective of people with the same opinion. The way that collective has been formed can usually involve the popularizing of an idea, for example "the best pop song". Everyone that agrees with it, joins the collective. Everyone that doesn't doesn't. A popular opinion have a bigger chance to grow, because the same idea is being spread by many people. And the more people saying the same thing, the more it seems true.

I don't think it is necessary to use the term "overrated" very often. It should be aimed towards a collective , whose shared opinion is supposedly out of proportion. What is being implied is that the opinion have been popularized, and it's the popularized opinion which is being criticized - or at least that is the best way to use the word in my opinion. So it's not aimed towards individuals, rather towards an idea that have influenced them.

Svetonio wrote:  All albums from the list are masterpieces in one way or another, it doesn't matter really, but only for Foxtrot we have that material proof that the original vinyl album wasn't recorded in a professional manner. So it's not a complete masterpiece as other albums from the list. And consenquently overrated. And young listeners don't give a sh*t on that if they are not the serious collectors of old LPs.

Edited by Ivan_Melgar_M - September 15 2015 at 13:34

none of these albums is overrated in my opinion

Overrated is a term that can apply in sports...  
'The Dallas Cowboys are overrated' is a statement that can be argued
based on results.  It they always win they can't be overrated.

Music, on the other hand, has no contest where a song or album can objectively be 'better' than another

so, while I think all of Britney Spears' songs are crap and all of 'pick your fave prog artist'  are waaaay better
that is just my opinion

some people feel the total opposite.  They feel that Britney is a musical genius and  all prog is pretentious crap.

Neither one of us is 'right'.   There is no 'right'.

In my opinion it is impossible for any music to be 'overrated' by definition.


Edited by digdug - September 15 2015 at 12:28

Ivan_Melgar_M wrote: IMHO Overrated means = Look at those idiots who love what I decided is mediocre.

Perhaps all albums that were recorded in the history of the Universe are overrated. All albums are flawed. Some don't emphasize on melody, others don't have strong lyrics, etc. We all like and/or dislike albums for our reasons.

Edited by Dayvenkirq - September 15 2015 at 13:51

I'm still 100% convinced that if something is voted as the most overrated it immediately means that it is not overrated.

Court of the Crimson King of course! No doubt.

Saperlipopette! wrote: Dellinger wrote: Now, of course, if you go to the point of saying that a madman dictator is wrong at killing everyone who doesn't fit his idea the right race, of course I agree with you, anyone doing massacres will be wrong and on that one there's no way to convince me otherwise. As for communists... I don't really think that either communists nor capitalists are entirely wrong, I rather think that it's the people that lead such ideologies, the people at the government, who are wrong when they abuse them and take advantage of their position for their own benefit. Communism is overrated. I can see to a certain extent why it made sense among some westerners in the 1940's and possibly up to the 1970's but people should seriously know better in 2015. Believing that you are right should obviously be based on experience and knowledge. My experience and knowledge is what I trust whether it regards Aquarium, You're Under Arrest or madman dictators. They all suck in various degrees and anyone who disagrees with me are dead wrong.

Well, perhaps I don't have the same experience you have, nor have I studied much about comunism or socialism, however I believe the great problem of those systems is that they give too much power to the government... they are suposed to be the ones to distribute the wealth more equaly, but in the end they control too much of the life of the people, and who's to say that they will really distribute the wealth equally?