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Originally posted by Walton Street Walton Street wrote:

i'm probably the only person on this planet that thinks The Final Cut is a masterpiece


I wouldn't call TFC a masterpiece, but I can think of at lest three (if not four) worse Floyd album , including AMLOR and TDB)

I'd even suspect that this poll is slanted to make TFC win in view of the other bands' proposed album's choices... Most of them are not their "worst" (I mean Abacab worse than Invisible Touch?? really??)

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I voted Final Cut, but I just remembered how bad Under Wraps is.
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Originally posted by Chris S Chris S wrote:

Originally posted by Walton Street Walton Street wrote:


i'm probably the only person on this planet that thinks The Final Cut is a masterpiece


You most certainly are not!


In a sense, and given that I might be in the right mood, I might agree with you, and I could consider the album a masterpiece... specially from a concept album point of view, but I still consider it to be among my least favourites from the band... at least below the middle if I made a list of the Floyd albums from favourite to least favourite. Still, I think many bands/artists would be very fortunate if they managed to do an album as good as this one. Still, the one thing I don't understand, is why they only put part 1 of "The Hero's Return" on the album... I managed to hear the single version with parts 1 and 2 together, and it's wonderful... if the album included both parts as a whole song that alone would lift the quality of the album (that is one of my favourite songs on the album, but as it is, it's too short to really enjoy it before it ends... with both part together it actually feels like a complete song).
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Originally posted by Walton Street Walton Street wrote:

i'm probably the only person on this planet that thinks The Final Cut is a masterpiece

You most certainly are not!
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Only like Beat.
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Same here!  I know its sacrilege but I think 'Canario' stands up well against other similar ELP work-outs such as 'Hoedown' and 'Fanfare'.  It's a shame it was never performed live and extended. 
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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Yep that horrible drippy production. Have you heard the demo's that were issued as bonus tracks of Letters From The Front and Canario? Even the rough cut versions are 10 times better than the finished product.


Actually Love Beach is the only one of my ELP albums where I haven't replaced the original vinyl with a CD. You've now inspired me to do that so I can hear the demos! Thumbs Up
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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

^I like Heaven and Earth More than Open Your Eyes and Test For Echo is a long way from being Rush worst album which for me would be Presto or Hold You Fire ( However Rush are one of the most consistent bands in rock/prog history , not many real down moments). I agree with the ELP and Genesis ones though. A couple of truly unlistenable albums if ever there were ( and the joke was they were supposed to be commercial radio friendly stuff).
ELP's Love Beach has been the source of some good discussion recently. For me it has about 60% decent material and the rest could be binned ( A Taste Of My Love , Canario and the last half of Memoirs) . It could have been a decent commercial radio friendly prog album in the same vein as Duke but didn't quite make it.
 
Biggest drop off in quality. Many would say ELP yet many will say ELP were not that good in the first place. However to go from Brain Salad Surgery (1973) to Love Beach ( 1978) is a bit sad to say the least so I guess ELP are the ones to win this 'award' and perhaps dear Greg and his mate Pete should be lead to the gallows!
 
We'll agree to disagree about Yes' and Rush's worst respective efforts, agreeing that all mentioned are sub-par.
 
Love Beach continues to garner interest in the same way an auto pile-up does. It was never going to be good, but there was promise of less-than-awful in a couple of places. Perhaps "Memoirs" could've amounted to something with another co-writer.
 
I agree that ELP takes the cake on plummeting quality, although Yes from Fly From Here to Heaven and Earth is close, as are the Moodies from Seventh Sojourn to Octave.
 
Fly For Here is pretty average imo so I don't believe there was such a massive drop.
I have to admit I am biased towards Jon Davison as I am bit of a Glass Hammer fan so that helps me in not just dismissing Heaven and Earth. Both are 2-3 star albums whichever way you want to cut it though.
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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:


ELP's Love Beach has been the source of some good discussion recently. For me it has about 60% decent material and the rest could be binned ( A Taste Of My Love , Canario and the last half of Memoirs) . It could have been a decent commercial radio friendly prog album in the same vein as Duke but didn't quite make it.
 


I agree about Love Beach being a precipitous drop from Brain Salad Surgery, but actually like the three tracks you singled out for culling. The March at the end of Memoirs is good and would have been great if the sound had been beefed up IMHO, the undercooked production being one of the main problems with Love Beach. I would list the other problems but don't have all day. Canario is an excellent track and Taste of My Love should be retained for its (unintentional) comedy value. All I Want is You is the one I 'd definitely drop, a thoroughly undistinguished slice of AOR. Remember my heart slumping when I saw them do this on Top of the Pops.
 
Yep that horrible drippy production. Have you heard the demo's that were issued as bonus tracks of Letters From The Front and Canario? Even the rough cut versions are 10 times better than the finished product.
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Originally posted by Bitterblogger Bitterblogger wrote:

^Open Your Eyes starts off with what I think is a most underrated "New State of Mind", an enjoyable title track, and a serviceable "Universal Garden" before going off the rails.
 
Heaven and Earth has only Subway Walls, which overstays its welcome after the pretty much unmitigated dreck preceding it.

Think Open your eyes is a train wreak and not even Yes---Heaven and Earth at full blast in a car has several good songsLOL---Believe Again, The Game, Subway walls, In a world of our own---and to ascend and Light of the Ages to some extent---some great playing by Steve---the album does lack energy and should have been speeded up. But musical taste is random I know---Love to hear Howe play and he plays a lot on this.
I do think it's interesting to see how many seem to love Yes west but they never seem to win any prog polls.
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I'm gonna go ahead and say Nursery Cryme. 

Besides the opener and closer, the album is a dud. 
Crushed like a rose in the riverflow.
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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

^I like Heaven and Earth More than Open Your Eyes and Test For Echo is a long way from being Rush worst album which for me would be Presto or Hold You Fire ( However Rush are one of the most consistent bands in rock/prog history , not many real down moments). I agree with the ELP and Genesis ones though. A couple of truly unlistenable albums if ever there were ( and the joke was they were supposed to be commercial radio friendly stuff).
ELP's Love Beach has been the source of some good discussion recently. For me it has about 60% decent material and the rest could be binned ( A Taste Of My Love , Canario and the last half of Memoirs) . It could have been a decent commercial radio friendly prog album in the same vein as Duke but didn't quite make it.
 
Biggest drop off in quality. Many would say ELP yet many will say ELP were not that good in the first place. However to go from Brain Salad Surgery (1973) to Love Beach ( 1978) is a bit sad to say the least so I guess ELP are the ones to win this 'award' and perhaps dear Greg and his mate Pete should be lead to the gallows!
 
We'll agree to disagree about Yes' and Rush's worst respective efforts, agreeing that all mentioned are sub-par.
 
Love Beach continues to garner interest in the same way an auto pile-up does. It was never going to be good, but there was promise of less-than-awful in a couple of places. Perhaps "Memoirs" could've amounted to something with another co-writer.
 
I agree that ELP takes the cake on plummeting quality, although Yes from Fly From Here to Heaven and Earth is close, as are the Moodies from Seventh Sojourn to Octave.
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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:


ELP's Love Beach has been the source of some good discussion recently. For me it has about 60% decent material and the rest could be binned ( A Taste Of My Love , Canario and the last half of Memoirs) . It could have been a decent commercial radio friendly prog album in the same vein as Duke but didn't quite make it.
 


I agree about Love Beach being a precipitous drop from Brain Salad Surgery, but actually like the three tracks you singled out for culling. The March at the end of Memoirs is good and would have been great if the sound had been beefed up IMHO, the undercooked production being one of the main problems with Love Beach. I would list the other problems but don't have all day. Canario is an excellent track and Taste of My Love should be retained for its (unintentional) comedy value. All I Want is You is the one I 'd definitely drop, a thoroughly undistinguished slice of AOR. Remember my heart slumping when I saw them do this on Top of the Pops.
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^I like Heaven and Earth More than Open Your Eyes and Test For Echo is a long way from being Rush worst album which for me would be Presto or Hold You Fire ( However Rush are one of the most consistent bands in rock/prog history , not many real down moments). I agree with the ELP and Genesis ones though. A couple of truly unlistenable albums if ever there were ( and the joke was they were supposed to be commercial radio friendly stuff).
ELP's Love Beach has been the source of some good discussion recently. For me it has about 60% decent material and the rest could be binned ( A Taste Of My Love , Canario and the last half of Memoirs) . It could have been a decent commercial radio friendly prog album in the same vein as Duke but didn't quite make it.
 
Biggest drop off in quality. Many would say ELP yet many will say ELP were not that good in the first place. However to go from Brain Salad Surgery (1973) to Love Beach ( 1978) is a bit sad to say the least so I guess ELP are the ones to win this 'award' and perhaps dear Greg and his mate Pete should be lead to the gallows!
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^Open Your Eyes starts off with what I think is a most underrated "New State of Mind", an enjoyable title track, and a serviceable "Universal Garden" before going off the rails.
 
Heaven and Earth has only Subway Walls, which overstays its welcome after the pretty much unmitigated dreck preceding it.
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You think Heaven and Earth is worse than Open Your Eyes? I think not.^^^^
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Floyd's The Endless River.
Yes' Heaven and Earth.
Moody Blues' Octave.
Genesis' Calling All Stations.
Tull's Under Wraps.
ELP's In The Hot Seat.
Rush's Test For Echo.
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All wretchedly bad. Crimson's Beat is their weakest, but miles ahead compared to the worst of the other former giants. I agree that Camel should not be included.
 
I think a more interesting idea would be to ask which of these former supergroups has the biggest drop-off in quality comparing their best to their worst (and which personnel are to blame!)
 
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^It would've skewed the results. At least we have a close race right now.
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Left out Love Beach???
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