Has the flame finally gone out?

cstack3 wrote: Guldbamsen wrote: It's a backwards way of looking at things. Before promoters and festivals are willing to support young prog bands, they need to know there is a crowd for it. Simple as. You don't put up a program of music, if it only attracts 7 people. I disagree.  I lived in Tulsa, OK which had a very underground prog music scene.  Lon Jones, one of Bob Fripp's first Guitar Craft students, had a little band called CAVU ("ceiling and visibility unlimited"), and he played some very tiny little crowds.  I joined as bassist, and we ended up playing some huge festivals.  The first prog bands had notoriously difficult beginnings, including Genesis, Yes and King Crimson.  It's up to the musicians to persist with their artistic vision.  I'm not sure that today's youth have this drive, but I'm willing to bet there are still some examples out there.

Thanks Chuck.

Guld ... if you don't believe me, you should really ready Guy Guden's blog and check out his history of his 25some years on the air playing nothing but "imports" at the time, and later became called "progressive".

Just to give you an idea, and I have it on tape (can't share it unfortunately per Guy), there is a type of megalomania and stupidity that circles most radio stations, and it also affected the early FM stations with the new material. Here is the exchange ... slightly translated ... Guy starts Golden Earring "Are You Receiving Me?" and another jock makes a point of going over it and say that "it's not rock'n'roll" ... and Guy stopped the album all the way to stop and said "Who cares? It's great music!" and restarted it up!

Some of these folks only know the top ten and how everything else they like sounds exactly the same as all the others! They have no idea what "music" is!

And the biggest problem we have? The Top Ten here ... and everyone looking for music that is EXACTLY like that top ten ... so "progressive" must have the keyboards of an ELP or Genesis ... and other BS out there on the most uneducated and stupid definition of music ever created!

Sorry ... and Guld ... you really should study the history of music a little ... it's always been about ... "something different" ... and yes, some of it you and I would say it was crap, but a lot of it is remembered. Why? It was different at the time and put up with the same disrespect! As a joke ... go see "Amadeus" when the king says ... "too many notes"  ... and we say the same thing about almost all the "metal" bands, and Jon McLoughlin and so many others!

Should tell you we're not listening to anything else but the notes! I hardly think that person is a good one to be incvolved in the "definition" of "MUSIC".

If tech was the only thing everyone would be able to do better records today, but the fact is that everyone is strugling to do as good as the old masters. To me that proves that tech dosent help you much, if your basic consept is not great. But is does not prove that it is impossible to do as good or better records with modern tech.