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micky
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Posted: January 18 2015 at 14:27 |
SteveG wrote:
Come on. Who invented progressive rock? |
ahh... don't we have a 100 different threads for that already.. take that sh*t somewhere else funny thing.. the finale is a bit of damp squib for me as I wouldn't consider myself a passionate fan of either. I love Floyd albums but don't hold them up as paradigms of the Prog Rock medium. I do consider them 'progressive' rock fitting the site of course, but a different animal than groups like King Crimson. take this for example. It drips the truth man, it is the reason why it achieved the popularity it did. It stripped out the prog.. and left the progressive.
'The Dark Side of the Moon' (1973)
Pink Floyd
Pink Floyd's eighth album, more or
less, was a symbolic break from their past -- the moment where their
long, drawn-out prog tendencies gave way to tighter, shorter and more
focused "song"-oriented tracks. And they marked the occasion with their
best concept albumHowever for my better half... she is into this... makes me wish I hadn't voted yet. I would have cast my vote for her. Lord knows she did her part for me... hell SHE.. like big Rush fan herself.. voted for Gong. You know.. Gong won by one vote. In lieu of my vote, already cast, you PA's can do your part to honor not just THE king of Prog Rock. Fripp himself along with a cast of revolving musicians ...called King Crimson, and vote for King Crimson, but also my dear wife who unlike me has been sweet and kind to all you fools. This is Prog Archives you know.. not progressive archives.
Edited by micky - January 18 2015 at 14:30
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SteveG
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Posted: January 18 2015 at 14:27 |
^I said prog rock not motor car!
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Argonaught
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Posted: January 18 2015 at 14:26 |
SteveG wrote:
Come on. Who invented progressive rock? |
Karl Benz?
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Argonaught
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Posted: January 18 2015 at 14:24 |
Friday13th wrote:
I think the recent reemergence of both bands has increased the respect for them, unlike Genesis and Yes which are either dead or better off dead. Easily King Crimson for me. |
and . If "prog" is going to have anything to do with innovation, KC should be winning this. PF have made a ton of fantastic music, but IMO they stopped innovating in the 1970s.
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aliano
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Posted: January 18 2015 at 14:21 |
Pink Floyd
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SteveG
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Posted: January 18 2015 at 14:05 |
Come on. Who invented progressive rock?
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micky
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Posted: January 18 2015 at 14:01 |
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Nogbad_The_Bad
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Posted: January 18 2015 at 13:59 |
micky wrote:
3) too little too late: Ivan breaks the Riverside-Samla Mammas Manna tie by voting for SMM... 2 hours after the poll closed and Riverside edged SSM on a bullsh*t tierbreaker
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This was the nadir, they could of gone all the way!! It invalidated the whole competition.
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Ian
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micky
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Posted: January 18 2015 at 13:54 |
Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:
Floyd were my first love, they were then supplanted by Crimson, both are still top 5 for me. Crimson just get the edge for me.
That the final isn't Yes vs Genesis makes me very very happy.
Great competition Micky, well done (Univers Zero were robbed) |
Thanks Ian! UZ didn't get robbed.. not like a certain group did at least I see we at least have a competitive match for the final. A good way to end it. Top 5 2014-15 PA's Battle of Bands moments: 1) the rematch: Camel edges ELP 2) Italian power: Le Orme takes Rush to the limit in a opening round shocker. (thread also gave us the comment of the tournament!
HolyMoly wrote:
I had no idea there were so many Le Orme fans here.
C'MON GUYZ IT'S RUSH GEEZ
Where
was Le Orme when you were squeezing pimples in your teenage bathroom,
looking for guidance to summon the courage to approach that pretty girl
in your class? Who but Neil Peart could give you the courage to say THE
HELL WITH GIRLS I'M GONNA WITHDRAW INTO MY FANTASY WORLD ? |
3) too little too late: Ivan breaks the Riverside-Samla Mammas Manna tie by voting for SMM... 2 hours after the poll closed and Riverside edged SSM on a bullsh*t tierbreaker 4) Freaks over Geeks: The Gong army showed its muscle and knocked out Rush in a bitter razor thin 1 vote decision 5) bye bye flavor of the months: Porcupine Tree and Dream Theater unceremoniously kicked out of the tournament in the opening round.
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Friday13th
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Posted: January 18 2015 at 13:51 |
I think the recent reemergence of both bands has increased the respect for them, unlike Genesis and Yes which are either dead or better off dead. Easily King Crimson for me.
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Progosopher
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Posted: January 18 2015 at 13:46 |
As much as I love the music of both, there are passages from KC that move me more, that get under my skin and into my higher faculties, as well as my lizard brain, than anything in the PF catalog. Good contest. I expected another Genesis/Yes bout, and am pleasantly surprised to have seen it go in a different direction. What a difference a couple of years and varying the contests make!
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The world of sound is certainly capable of infinite variety and, were our sense developed, of infinite extensions. -- George Santayana, "The Sense of Beauty"
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Raff
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Posted: January 18 2015 at 12:55 |
One thing is for sure: this site has changed a lot (mostly for the better )
in the past few years. Five years ago, this contest might well have had
Dream Theater in the lead, or have ended up with an unsurprising Yes vs
Genesis match-up. Kudos to everyone for shaking things up !
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Luna
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Posted: January 18 2015 at 12:29 |
I love Floyd, and maybe a year ago my vote would have been different, but going with KC. None of their albums I loved (or hardly liked) on first listen, but after a few listens and some time, they've always revealed themselves to me and become high up in my favorites.
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Padraic
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Posted: January 18 2015 at 12:19 |
KC
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HackettFan
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Posted: January 18 2015 at 12:04 |
King Crimson.
I've always liked Floyd, liked Floyd a great deal, but I never got to loving them, with all due respect. I do love Lizard, Lark's Tongues, Starless and Bible Black, and Discipline, and I finally got the sort of guitar orgy I was always looking for with Space Groove. Besides, a vote for Crimson is a show of respect for Genesis who they slightly edged out in the semi-final.
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The.Crimson.King
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Posted: January 18 2015 at 11:59 |
The Crimson King
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Stool Man
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Posted: January 18 2015 at 11:25 |
Pink Floyd all the way. Maybe if I'd never heard them over the last forty-plus years and only gave them a listen this week, then it's hypothetically possible that I'd vote otherwise.....but nah, who'm I kidding?
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Tuzvihar
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Posted: January 18 2015 at 11:04 |
The-time-is-now wrote:
Pink Floyd. |
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"Music is much like f**king, but some composers can't climax and others climax too often, leaving themselves and the listener jaded and spent."
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Mellotron Storm
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Posted: January 18 2015 at 11:00 |
Man this is hard but I have to go with the band that has more 5 star albums for me...King Crimson.
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The Dark Elf
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Posted: January 18 2015 at 10:56 |
Pink Floyd. They simply have far more albums I care about compared to Crimson. King Crimson is quite uneven, even in their best albums (the interminable tinkling of Moonchild, the long indefinite noodling of Providence, etc.), and Floyd trumps Crimson in the actual songwriting category, it's not even close.
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