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Genesis.

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 I guess it depends on how you phrase the question. Best musicians? Most influential? Favorite between the two? Both bands are in my top 5. I voted Beatles just for their shear impact on music overall. (ask me tomorrow & I'll probably vote for Genesis Wink)
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Have to say Beatles, one reason I don´t think there would have been Genesis without Beatles. But of course you can say the same all the progbands, anyway I think would put at least Wigwam, PF & KC over Beatles.
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Genesis

I rarely listen to the Beatles these days, because I did it way to much in the past. 

It's not the case with Genesis though. 
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Neither are huge favorites of mine, but at least I kind of like Genesis!




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Originally posted by bhikkhu bhikkhu wrote:

Originally posted by O666 O666 wrote:

GENESIS Easily. Many of Beatles votes haven't musical reasons. Nostalgic reasons or Historical reasons push some guys to choose The Beatles. Some of members talked about "Released Date" of albums!! and some guys talked about "World and Music without Beatles!!" I don't think like that. With or Without Beatles Progressive music and musicians did their great works. I mean great musicians like Zappa or Gabriel or ... made their music  and this music found fans.


Okay, historical context aside.

Please Please Me Vs. FGTR. Neither a great debut but both nice albums.  Then Genesis had a run of 8 very good to great albums, and yes I am including ATTWT. After that it was a downslide but still had three likable albums in them. The Beatles remaining output only had two not quite as good offerings in Beatles for Sale and Yellow Submarine. Now if you include Invisible Touch, We Can't Dance and Calling all stations you have three pretty bad albums on the Genesis resume.

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Genesis -  8 Thumbs Up  4 Approve  3 Dead
Beatles - 10 Thumbs Up  3 Approve  0 Dead

I'd say that is a pretty clear win for The Beatles.

An additional point to consider is that The Beatles did it all in under a decade.

 
 
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Points: 5109 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 20 2014 at 10:56
Originally posted by O666 O666 wrote:

GENESIS Easily. Many of Beatles votes haven't musical reasons. Nostalgic reasons or Historical reasons push some guys to choose The Beatles. Some of members talked about "Released Date" of albums!! and some guys talked about "World and Music without Beatles!!" I don't think like that. With or Without Beatles Progressive music and musicians did their great works. I mean great musicians like Zappa or Gabriel or ... made their music  and this music found fans.


Okay, historical context aside.

Please Please Me Vs. FGTR. Neither a great debut but both nice albums.  Then Genesis had a run of 8 very good to great albums, and yes I am including ATTWT. After that it was a downslide but still had three likable albums in them. The Beatles remaining output only had two not quite as good offerings in Beatles for Sale and Yellow Submarine. Now if you include Invisible Touch, We Can't Dance and Calling all stations you have three pretty bad albums on the Genesis resume.

Score:
Genesis -  8 Thumbs Up  4 Approve  3 Dead
Beatles - 10 Thumbs Up  3 Approve  0 Dead

I'd say that is a pretty clear win for The Beatles.

An additional point to consider is that The Beatles did it all in under a decade.





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GENESIS Easily. Many of Beatles votes haven't musical reasons. Nostalgic reasons or Historical reasons push some guys to choose The Beatles. Some of members talked about "Released Date" of albums!! and some guys talked about "World and Music without Beatles!!" I don't think like that. With or Without Beatles Progressive music and musicians did their great works. I mean great musicians like Zappa or Gabriel or ... made their music  and this music found fans.
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This poll has a majority for Genesis votes Shocked 
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Originally posted by prog4evr prog4evr wrote:

Originally posted by The.Crimson.King The.Crimson.King wrote:

Without the Beatles there would never have been a Genesis Wink

I SO beg to differ!  Without Peter Gabriel there would not have been the BRILLIANT Genesis of the 1970-1974 period...
Prog4ever, have a listen to Sargent Pepper and The White album Wink except number 9, arghhh that track ends up in my head for days bah argghhhhh !!! Hugs Hug 
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Originally posted by The.Crimson.King The.Crimson.King wrote:

Without the Beatles there would never have been a Genesis Wink

I SO beg to differ!  Without Peter Gabriel there would not have been the BRILLIANT Genesis of the 1970-1974 period...
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Genesis made a lot of great music,  but I have always had reservations about them:

1. I can't say I like Gabriel's voice too much (Collins's is not much better). 
2. Genesis albums are lengthier than what I consider optimal. Some of them feel outright TL;DL
3. After a number of strong albums, Genesis made a few embarrassingly weak ones.

By way of comparison:

1. The Beatles remains one of the best vocal groups of all time
2. All "mature" (post-1965) Beatles albums are of optimal length and have perfect timing and structure. The 90' 2LP White Album is probably the only double album that I can listen to in one sitting. 
3. There isn't a single post-1965 Beatles album that I consider weak, inconsistent, derivative or disappointing in any other way. 

Regarding the oft-mentioned "influence": Genesis made a lot of ingenious symphonic rock, which is still being imitated (or emulated) by a number of new(er) bands. At the same time, the Beatles completely overhauled the whole world of popular music. I'd argue that the Beatles's innovation in 1965-1970 helped create or bring to the fore a good dozen styles, including symph, hard rock, psychedelic, electronic and what not. 
 



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Originally posted by Moogtron III Moogtron III wrote:

Originally posted by Kati Kati wrote:

[QUOTE=Moogtron III][QUOTE=Kati][QUOTE=Kati]
 

You don't have to post them, just learn them by heart. Good medecine for you! Like vitamin C. Vitamin G in this case. 
Much better than the Beatles. "Number nine, number nine." Smile
hahahaha you went there hahaha!!! NUMBER 9 Arghhhhhhhh, you play dirty,Moogtron III! I am blocking this out, I am blocking this song out, nana I am blocking this song out nanananahhhh....  Hug
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Originally posted by Kati Kati wrote:

Originally posted by Moogtron III Moogtron III wrote:

[QUOTE=Kati][QUOTE=Kati]
Ah, you're being provocative! 
Take the flower hat off the head of the cat, put it on your head, and in the naughty corner with you. 
And you don't come out until you know the lyrics of Cinema Show by heart Wink
Ahum ermmm, as Davenkirq and Andy very eloquently pointed out, we are not allowed to post lyrics on here Approve thus I win! Yay bounce, bounce, happy yay whooioheeee bounce Big smile hug Hug

You don't have to post them, just learn them by heart. Good medecine for you! Like vitamin C. Vitamin G in this case. 
Much better than the Beatles. "Number nine, number nine." Smile
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Originally posted by Moogtron III Moogtron III wrote:

[QUOTE=Kati][QUOTE=Kati]
Ah, you're being provocative! 
Take the flower hat off the head of the cat, put it on your head, and in the naughty corner with you. 
And you don't come out until you know the lyrics of Cinema Show by heart Wink
Ahum ermmm, as Davenkirq and Andy very eloquently pointed out, we are not allowed to post lyrics on here Approve thus I win! Yay bounce, bounce, happy yay whooioheeee bounce Big smile hug Hug
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Originally posted by Moogtron III Moogtron III wrote:

Originally posted by Kati Kati wrote:

Originally posted by Kati Kati wrote:

As much as I love a man wearing a fox on top of his head while wearing a red dress, this is no comparison to me against the Beatles. Stern Smile
Just because I find this pic so funny LOLBig smile hihihi hugs Hug

Ah, you're being provocative! 
Take the flower hat off the head of the cat, put it on your head, and in the naughty corner with you. 
And you don't come out until you know the lyrics of Cinema Show by heart Wink
Awww bah, Moogtron III you are twisting my own game against me! I object! It's not fair LOL lol you pest! Big smileClap hugs Hugplus I dare not to contradict cats, dogs yes but cats no Big smile more Hug
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Originally posted by Kati Kati wrote:

Originally posted by Kati Kati wrote:

As much as I love a man wearing a fox on top of his head while wearing a red dress, this is no comparison to me against the Beatles. Stern Smile
Just because I find this pic so funny LOLBig smile hihihi hugs Hug

Ah, you're being provocative! 
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Points: 4287 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 17 2014 at 02:41
Impossible choice here, no vote 
Prog is whatevey you want it to be. So dont diss other peoples prog, and they wont diss yours
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Originally posted by Kati Kati wrote:

As much as I love a man wearing a fox on top of his head while wearing a red dress, this is no comparison to me against the Beatles. Stern Smile
Just because I find this pic so funny LOLBig smile hihihi hugs Hug
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