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micky 
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 Posted: November 16 2014 at 16:29 |
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The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip
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bhikkhu
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Posted: November 16 2014 at 20:33 |
 Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:
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we love El Diablo. We both (I think both of us, I know me) discovered them during a midset break at Nearfest. They were blaring something from Sing Along Songs at Nearfest and we both were floored by it.. it was like.. 'WFT is THAT. I have to have that group' 
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I discovered them exactly the same way, I think it was the '10 edition.
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I think that was it Ian. Funny too because one of the vendors had just been talking about them before we went in to our seats and actually heard the music.
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micky
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Posted: November 16 2014 at 21:15 |
oh yeah. It was the '10 edition. Our first year patron, we got to sit up front. That was the year we had to peel your tongue from the stage after seeing Forgas and Karolina
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The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip
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richardh
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Posted: November 17 2014 at 01:51 |
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Didn't know the most popular RPI band was PFM, I know very little from them, I thought the most influential was Banco (I know very litlle from them too.) I know that Le Orme (my favourite RPI band so far) obviously don't deserve to be in this list. I don't see Moody Blues nor Procol Harum in there too, I think it's because they were not so influential and popular isn't it? The same applies to Vangelis unfortunately. |
ELP once opened for them when they toured Italy about 1973
Some considered PFM to be the very best prog band on the planet in their early days. They seemed to capture the pastoral beauty that in a way was started by Genesis on Trespass and then added a harder technical edge that was a bit King Crimson like. There is also a Gentle Giant like complexity to their music. Quite brilliant. Greg Lake was a fan and got them signed up to Manticore although it never quite worked out commercially for all concerned which was a shame.
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micky
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Posted: November 17 2014 at 16:36 |
richardh wrote:
ELP once opened for them when they toured Italy about 1973
Some considered PFM to be the very best prog band on the planet in their early days. They seemed to capture the pastoral beauty that in a way was started by Genesis on Trespass and then added a harder technical edge that was a bit King Crimson like. There is also a Gentle Giant like complexity to their music. Quite brilliant. Greg Lake was a fan and got them signed up to Manticore although it never quite worked out commercially for all concerned which was a shame. |
yeah. Perhaps even ELP themselves considered PFM that. That is he ultimate sign of respect, one of the 3 to 5 biggest and popular bands and concert attractions in the world (and not without substantial Zeppelin sized egos themselves) opening for another band.
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Rick Robson
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Posted: November 17 2014 at 17:06 |
...and the ultimate historic fact to be proud of
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presdoug
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Posted: November 17 2014 at 21:01 |
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In my native Canada, PFM were the shining light of Italian rock in the seventies, even flying over to Ottawa on a moment's notice to do a concert at a high school!
Their 1975 live album Cook was recorded in part in Toronto.
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fudgenuts64
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Posted: November 17 2014 at 21:31 |
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Marillion easily gets my vote. Hugely influential for better or worse. Renaissance certainly deserves a mention too. Other than that great list.
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Posted: November 18 2014 at 00:44 |
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Rick Robson
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Posted: November 18 2014 at 03:19 |
presdoug wrote:
In my native Canada, PFM were the shining light of Italian rock in the seventies, even flying over to Ottawa on a moment's notice to do a concert at a high school!
Their 1975 live album Cook was recorded in part in Toronto.
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Wow! Besides the fact of once having had one of the most fantastic bands of all times (ELP!) opening their gig, this was another remarkable fact indeed, in my point of view an essential behavior of every GREAT artist!
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Stool Man
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Posted: November 18 2014 at 06:54 |
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I haven't read all six pages of this discussion, so my apologies if I'm repeating any previous suggestions.
How about Ayreon, Gryphon, Funkadelic, and Soft Machine?
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someone_else
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Posted: November 18 2014 at 08:15 |
Excellent list, but I'd suggest a few modifications:
Progressive Electronic improvement: Kraftwerk -> Klaus Schulze
Neo prog bands are lacking: Radiohead -> Marillion
Änglagård -> IQ
Maybe Traffic, Univers Zero or Gong could be replaced by one more RPI band (Le Orme?). Another Psych/Space band (Hawkwind?) might be a good idea. And I see no Post-Rock bands.
Just my humble opinion...
Edited by someone_else - November 18 2014 at 08:16
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Nogbad_The_Bad
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Posted: November 18 2014 at 08:21 |
someone_else wrote:
Excellent list, but I'd suggest a few modifications:
Progressive Electronic improvement: Kraftwerk -> Klaus Schulze
Neo prog bands are lacking: Radiohead -> Marillion
Änglagård -> IQ
Maybe Traffic, Univers Zero or Gong could be replaced by one more RPI band (Le Orme?). Another Psych/Space band (Hawkwind?) might be a good idea. And I see no Post-Rock bands.
Just my humble opinion...
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Can I suggest you don't replace Radiohead, Anglagard, Univers Zero or Gong, they are all great bands that are amongst the best representatives of those sub-genres.
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dr wu23
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Posted: November 18 2014 at 08:51 |
The original OP list is pretty complete.....I would add The Moody Blues, Traffic, and Procol Harum as being influential. I know that most of us in college in the late 60's and early 70's listened to them on a regular basis.
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sleeper
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Posted: November 18 2014 at 09:10 |
Stool Man wrote:
I haven't read all six pages of this discussion, so my apologies if I'm repeating any previous suggestions.
How about Ayreon, Gryphon, Funkadelic, and Soft Machine?
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Soft Machine is already on the list, and I don't think Ayreon has influenced anybody. Gryphon are excellent, but maybe a bit niche for the Folk side of things.
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someone_else
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Posted: November 18 2014 at 09:59 |
Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:
someone_else wrote:
Excellent list, but I'd suggest a few modifications:
Progressive Electronic improvement: Kraftwerk -> Klaus Schulze
Neo prog bands are lacking: Radiohead -> Marillion
Änglagård -> IQ
Maybe Traffic, Univers Zero or Gong could be replaced by one more RPI band (Le Orme?). Another Psych/Space band (Hawkwind?) might be a good idea. And I see no Post-Rock bands.
Just my humble opinion...
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Can I suggest you don't replace Radiohead, Anglagard, Univers Zero or Gong, they are all great bands that are amongst the best representatives of those sub-genres. |
OK, I agree with you that UZ is great and one of RIO's best representatives (as far as I have heard them). I see Radiohead as a prog-related Indie-band. Änglagård never really clicked with me.
I mentioned Traffic even though it is one of my favourite bands.
Edited by someone_else - November 18 2014 at 10:00
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Rednight
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Posted: November 18 2014 at 11:32 |
someone_else wrote:
Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:
someone_else wrote:
Excellent list, but I'd suggest a few modifications:
Progressive Electronic improvement: Kraftwerk -> Klaus Schulze
Neo prog bands are lacking: Radiohead -> Marillion
Änglag<span style="color: rgb37, 37, 37; font-family: sans-serif; line-height: 22.3999996185303px;">ård -> IQ</span>
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</span> <span style="color: rgb37, 37, 37; font-family: sans-serif; line-height: 22.3999996185303px;">Maybe Traffic, Univers Zero or Gong could be replaced by one more RPI band (Le Orme?). Another Psych/Space band (Hawkwind?) might be a good idea. And I see no Post-Rock bands.</span> <span style="color: rgb37, 37, 37; font-family: sans-serif; line-height: 22.3999996185303px;">
</span> <span style="color: rgb37, 37, 37; font-family: sans-serif; line-height: 22.3999996185303px;">Just my humble opinion...</span>
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Can I suggest you don't replace Radiohead, Anglagard, Univers Zero or Gong, they are all great bands that are amongst the best representatives of those sub-genres. |
OK, I agree with you that UZ is great and one of RIO's best representatives (as far as I have heard them). I see Radiohead as a prog-related Indie-band. Änglagård never really clicked with me.
I mentioned Traffic even though it is one of my favourite bands.
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I wouldn't cross the street to insult Radiohead, let alone listen to them. And the list is quite flawed. I suggest a reworking of it. As for now, I couldn't be bothered and could much more easily get into March Madness (and I'm no college basketball fan).
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akamaisondufromage
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Posted: November 18 2014 at 11:54 |
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Right, who said replace 'GonG'? hmm Hmm? Foolish talk. Especially if we are talking inluential.
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bhikkhu
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Posted: November 18 2014 at 14:34 |
micky wrote:
oh yeah. It was the '10 edition. Our first year patron, we got to sit up front. That was the year we had to peel your tongue from the stage after seeing Forgas and Karolina
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Tuzvihar
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