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Poll Question: Who is a more influential drummer and whom do you prefer?
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Bill is one of a kind in style and swing---Neil a very good drummer.
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Bill Bruford. xxx
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Bill Bruford bringing back badass bongo beats, baby
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Originally posted by addictedtoprog addictedtoprog wrote:

Originally posted by dwill123 dwill123 wrote:

Peart is the most over-rated drummer in the business.


Guys..??? Is he correct???

I feel he's not..


He's correct in his own mind, in'nent he?
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I tend to think of Neli Peart as a great 'all rounder'. Now that could imply he's a Jack Of All Trades but I love the fact that he can do 'heavy' as well as play some extremely complex stuff. Bill creates more interesting patterns and rhythms but for me lacks 'balls' with maybe the exception of Red.
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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

I tend to think of Neli Peart as a great 'all rounder'. Now that could imply he's a Jack Of All Trades but I love the fact that he can do 'heavy' as well as play some extremely complex stuff. Bill creates more interesting patterns and rhythms but for me lacks 'balls' with maybe the exception of Red.

Not a bad interpretation, although on 'Heart of the Sunrise' (Fragile) and 'Parallels' (Going For the One), I think he definitely has the balls - the heavier chops - for these songs.  Otherwise, Richard, your analysis is quite sound...
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Originally posted by prog4evr prog4evr wrote:

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

I tend to think of Neli Peart as a great 'all rounder'. Now that could imply he's a Jack Of All Trades but I love the fact that he can do 'heavy' as well as play some extremely complex stuff. Bill creates more interesting patterns and rhythms but for me lacks 'balls' with maybe the exception of Red.

Not a bad interpretation, although on 'Heart of the Sunrise' (Fragile) and 'Parallels' (Going For the One), I think he definitely has the balls - the heavier chops - for these songs.  Otherwise, Richard, your analysis is quite sound...

yep he is brilliant on Fragile although GFTO was Alan White if I'm not mistaken?
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yes Alan on Parallels---tale Bill or Alan to Neil any day---Alan on Gates or Sound Chaser wow--creative stuff.
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Bruford actually does come down pretty hard on the skins but he's way too jazzy to just keep playing a steady groove.  And paradoxically that's actually necessary in heavy music.  Too much syncopation reduces the rock quotient.  Some music needs that straight up, driving, unsyncopated 4/4 stuff.  Bruford is an incredible drummer but keeping things simple is not exactly his forte.
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Both excellent A-class musicians, however, I think Bruford is top of the class; a musicians musician.  Many drummers play odd time signatures but how many play 2 different and odd time signatures at the same time?  Of course this means very little if the sequence doesn’t move you.

Bruford reinvented himself many times throughout his career and seems to do it all extremely well.   One of my favorite incarnations is when he took the electronic drums to new heights.  The master at play:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YBrkudwv8E&index=1&list=RD1YBrkudwv8E
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Voted Bruford for both although I agree he could lack a bit of the "heaviness" needed for rock. I find myself wishing he drummed more often like he did on KC's Starless where he combines technique with real power, that was his peak I think. Some of his best drumming with Yes was on South Side of the Sky, and I also like the work he did on his two albums with Patrick Moraz. Incidentally his autobiography is a great read, very witty and thoughtful. Some of the comments about Robert Fripp are hilarious.
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Originally posted by Billy Pilgrim Billy Pilgrim wrote:

^^ Peart seems like an incredibly nice dude, Brufford does kinda seem like a prick. Personality aside, peart is still more skilled, and Rush's influence is stamped all over the entire world of music. Can't believe he's not winning both sides of this poll.  

I'm interested to know how Mr. Bruford earned the "kinda seem like a prick" status.
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My vote is for Neil Peart
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Originally posted by dwill123 dwill123 wrote:

......  Peart is the most over-rated drummer in the business.
 
No...that would be the guy who left Dream Theater....
 
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ATP, you stole my next drummer poll! Well done. Clap

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Originally posted by Rednight Rednight wrote:

Originally posted by Billy Pilgrim Billy Pilgrim wrote:

^^ Peart seems like an incredibly nice dude, Brufford does kinda seem like a prick. Personality aside, peart is still more skilled, and Rush's influence is stamped all over the entire world of music. Can't believe he's not winning both sides of this poll.  

I'm interested to know how Mr. Bruford earned the "kinda seem like a prick" status.

Spent too long with Mr Fripp I expectWink
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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Originally posted by Rednight Rednight wrote:

Originally posted by Billy Pilgrim Billy Pilgrim wrote:

^^ Peart seems like an incredibly nice dude, Brufford does kinda seem like a prick. Personality aside, peart is still more skilled, and Rush's influence is stamped all over the entire world of music. Can't believe he's not winning both sides of this poll.  

I'm interested to know how Mr. Bruford earned the "kinda seem like a prick" status.


Spent too long with Mr Fripp I expectWink

Spending time with MR. FRIPP, the greatest prog guitar player who ever lived, makes one a prick? I think not. How dare you, sir! HOW DARE YOU!!
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