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Man With Hat 
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Davis does seem the most obvious.
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b_olariu
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Posted: October 21 2014 at 02:36 |
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Rush - they influenced bans/artists from prog to metal to death metal to all genres
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Xonty
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Posted: October 21 2014 at 03:42 |
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Genesis just over KC
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friso
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Posted: October 21 2014 at 06:02 |
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Kraftwerk of course
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Guldbamsen
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Posted: October 21 2014 at 06:25 |
How are Genesis winning this poll? It's about influence on other bands and artists - regardless of the prog tag. Most musicians, that aren't prog fans, have no clue about 70s Genesis, and while the stuff they dished out in the 80s was successful (and pretty damn good), I fail to see how influential it really was on subsequent generations of music makers. Kraftwerk and Miles were and still are vastly more influential on not just one scene but dozens, literally. The music world doesn't always stop at the prog gates - sometimes we tend to forget that in here amongst the Rush and Genesis fumes.
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“The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.”
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Svetonio
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Posted: October 21 2014 at 07:41 |
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Pink Floyd
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digdug
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Posted: October 21 2014 at 08:41 |
 HolyMoly wrote:
I could just pick a favorite here, but if I'm honest, I don't even know how I would begin to quantify the influence each of these artists has had, let alone compare them.
But rather than simply offer that curmudgeonly answer and walk away, since it is a good question, I will respectfully say this.
FUGG IF I KNOW |
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chopper
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Posted: October 21 2014 at 08:47 |
presdoug wrote:
Rick Robson wrote:
ELP |
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OK name me a band that were influenced by ELP (apart from T********t).
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Guldbamsen
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Posted: October 21 2014 at 08:48 |
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^Le Orme and Triumvirat instantly spring to mind.
Edited by Guldbamsen - October 21 2014 at 08:55
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hellogoodbye
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Posted: October 21 2014 at 08:54 |
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CAN for me.
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dr wu23
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Posted: October 21 2014 at 08:58 |
Guldbamsen wrote:
How are Genesis winning this poll? It's about influence on other bands and artists - regardless of the prog tag. Most musicians, that aren't prog fans, have no clue about 70s Genesis, and while the stuff they dished out in the 80s was successful (and pretty damn good), I fail to see how influential it really was on subsequent generations of music makers.Kraftwerk and Miles were and still are vastly more influential on not just one scene but dozens, literally. The music world doesn't always stop at the prog gates - sometimes we tend to forget that in here amongst the Rush and Genesis fumes. |
^This.... But are we talking about influence back in the day or from the 80's on...?
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Guldbamsen
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Posted: October 21 2014 at 09:01 |
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I think we're talking all of that. Influence on past, subsequent and modern acts.
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“The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.”
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chopper
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Posted: October 21 2014 at 09:02 |
Guldbamsen wrote:
^Le Orme and Triumvirat instantly spring to mind.
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Fair enough, I'm not really aware of Le Orme but Triumvirat aren't allowed. My point was I can't think of many bands that mixed up classical music and rock in a 3 piece keyboards dominated format like ELP.
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Guldbamsen
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Posted: October 21 2014 at 09:08 |
chopper wrote:
Guldbamsen wrote:
^Le Orme and Triumvirat instantly spring to mind.
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Fair enough, I'm not really aware of Le Orme but Triumvirat aren't allowed. My point was I can't think of many bands that mixed up classical music and rock in a 3 piece keyboards dominated format like ELP. |
Alright, I see. How about Atomic Rooster then? While still sporting their own sound, I still hear a lot of influence from Emerson in Vincent Crane's playing. (then again that's probably down to the period with The Nice more than ELP now that I think of it)
Also, Triumvirat aren't allowed?  
Edited by Guldbamsen - October 21 2014 at 09:10
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dr wu23
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Posted: October 21 2014 at 09:20 |
Guldbamsen wrote:
I think we're talking all of that. Influence on past, subsequent and modern acts. |
In that case I'll say equal parts KC, Genesis, and Floyd....they all have influenced a large number of bands over the years both past and present. I don't hear as much Yes influence in bands as those three.
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chopper
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Posted: October 21 2014 at 09:33 |
Guldbamsen wrote:
chopper wrote:
Guldbamsen wrote:
^Le Orme and Triumvirat instantly spring to mind.
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Fair enough, I'm not really aware of Le Orme but Triumvirat aren't allowed. My point was I can't think of many bands that mixed up classical music and rock in a 3 piece keyboards dominated format like ELP. |
Alright, I see. How about Atomic Rooster then? While still sporting their own sound, I still hear a lot of influence from Emerson in Vincent Crane's playing. (then again that's probably down to the period with The Nice more than ELP now that I think of it)
Also, Triumvirat aren't allowed?
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Only because I'm quoting presdoug and I knew he'd mention them straight away  (and I'm aware of their ELP influence)
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Guldbamsen
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Posted: October 21 2014 at 11:03 |
I thought of another one (as a matter of fact I'm listening to their newest right now), Elephant9 from Norway. These guys sound like ELP on some terrifying drug. They're also normally a three piece band with organs, drums and bass. This new one called Atlantis does feature one of my favourite modern guitarist in Reine Fiske though, but the heart of their sound still remains largely unchanged.
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O666
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Posted: October 21 2014 at 11:07 |
I think we must categorize this. A - In Progressive Rock : 1- Genesis 2- KC 3- Yes 4- Rush 5- Pink Floyd 6- ELP B - In Rock genre : Pink Floyd and Rush C - In Metal genre : Metallica and DT D - In General : Kraftwerk and Tangerine Dream and Metallica and Pink Floyd
I think most influential artist of Prog Rock is Genesis. You can see that very clear. If we zoom to quality of Prog bands that influenced by Genesis you can see bands like : Citizen Cain - Simon Says - 5 bridges - The Watch - Agents of Mercy - Flower Kings - Glass Hammer (not all albums of them ) - Transatlantic and more. Some of these bands can be influential for other bands like The Flower Kings. And there are too many "Genesis Clone" bands that I don't want to talk about them. I know ELP and KC and RUSH and Yes and PF and ... are influential in "Prog Rock" but I can't Ignore Genesis affect in this genre of music. Genesis is Icon of many of Symphonic and Neo Prog great bands.
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Nogbad_The_Bad
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Posted: October 21 2014 at 11:45 |
Guldbamsen wrote:
Alright, I see.
How about Atomic Rooster then? While still sporting their own sound, I still hear a lot of influence from Emerson in Vincent Crane's playing. |
Guldbamsen wrote:
I thought of another one (as a matter of fact I'm listening to their newest right now), Elephant9 from Norway.
These guys sound like ELP on some terrifying drug. |
I like both bands a lot but I don't really hear any ELP in their stuff.
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Ian
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Guldbamsen
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Posted: October 21 2014 at 11:47 |
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Maybe it's just me then. I do hear distinct ELP influences at play in both bands, although they never really sound like them, if you catch my drift.
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