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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 25 2014 at 04:53
Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

Metal?  Good grief.  Ain't never been nohow near as I reckon. 

I second that, Atavachron big hugs
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 25 2014 at 08:20
Originally posted by Kati Kati wrote:

I am not a great fan of Rush to be honest, 


Then you're dead to me.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 25 2014 at 09:18
I like Rush and I don't like most prog metal.....so they must be heavy prog.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 25 2014 at 09:55
Originally posted by Kati Kati wrote:

Neil Peart double kicks *ss and yes I read his book, however (awww please don't kill me) he is partly to blame to Geddy's singing too because most times I don't like the singing, love the bass line too much, but the lyrics at times are a bit corny too


Neil's lyrics weren't very inspiring on quite a few songs across Presto, Roll The Bones and Test For Echo, though the good ones are very good. Counterparts is their best '90s album when it comes to both music and lyrics.

And while many hate the album, Vapor Trails turned out to be one of his best lyrical showcases ever. I love the music, too. Very heavy.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 25 2014 at 11:29
Vapor Trails is a beast of an album....Great lyrics with hard, heavy, thick music.
Considering the reason for the bands hiatus, one would think they would have released a fluffy, melancholic, sobering album. Nahhh...balls to the walls sound saying "we are back!"
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 25 2014 at 12:05
Originally posted by Padraic Padraic wrote:

Originally posted by Kati Kati wrote:

I am not a great fan of Rush to be honest, 


Then you're dead to me.
me too! LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 25 2014 at 12:16
Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

Vapor Trails is a beast of an album....Great lyrics with hard, heavy, thick music.
Considering the reason for the bands hiatus, one would think they would have released a fluffy, melancholic, sobering album. Nahhh...balls to the walls sound saying "we are back!"
Agree 100%. I've heard the remix on CD and it's great. Do you know if it's out on vinyl?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 25 2014 at 12:25

Originally posted by Kati Kati wrote:

Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

Metal?  Good grief.  Ain't never been nohow near as I reckon. 

I second that, Atavachron big hugs
Loud guitar distortion is not the only attribute of metal. Double bass drumming and attitude (plus high pitched vocals) is also a big part and their first album was far from total prog. Take the song Working Man for example and their early reluctance to use keyboards. But I agree that they did evolve greatly from that point.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 25 2014 at 12:28
Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

Vapor Trails is a beast of an album....Great lyrics with hard, heavy, thick music.
Considering the reason for the bands hiatus, one would think they would have released a fluffy, melancholic, sobering album. Nahhh...balls to the walls sound saying "we are back!"
Agree 100%. I've heard the remix on CD and it's great. Do you know if it's out on vinyl?
I can answer that.  Yes, he does know.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 25 2014 at 12:31
^LOLLOLLOLLOL

Gotta sign off, have a good day, Steve!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 25 2014 at 12:32
You too, bud. :)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 25 2014 at 12:43
Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

Vapor Trails is a beast of an album....Great lyrics with hard, heavy, thick music.
Considering the reason for the bands hiatus, one would think they would have released a fluffy, melancholic, sobering album. Nahhh...balls to the walls sound saying "we are back!"


I believe the album sounds as aggressive as it does due to the tragedy that befell Neil. He hadn't played the way he does on VT since at least the mid-80s. Lyrically and musically, it's their best album, IMO, since Power Windows.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 25 2014 at 13:25
Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:


Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

Vapor Trails is a beast of an album....Great lyrics with hard, heavy, thick music.
Considering the reason for the bands hiatus, one would think they would have released a fluffy, melancholic, sobering album. Nahhh...balls to the walls sound saying "we are back!"
Agree 100%. I've heard the remix on CD and it's great. Do you know if it's out on vinyl?


I have the original CD which I love, always have.....

The remix on vinyl is fantastic, there are sounds/bits I do not hear on the original mix, so it has a different presentation in spots

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 25 2014 at 14:05
^Awesome, Catch. Thanks! Next on my list!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 25 2014 at 15:20
Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:



I've always thought of Rush as primarily being a hard rock band which certainly has links to classic heavy metal.  Heavy Prog is the most apt category. 



Quoting from (fading) memory: when I started listening to Rush, which would have been good 35 years ago, the word "prog" was being used a lot more sparingly than it's now. I certainly don't remember Rush being called prog back then; just hard rock or heavy metal. But it's also true that they came up with markedly more complex lyrics and melody lines than many others in the genre.  

Should we say, Prog Metal in the 1970s and more like Heavy Prog afterwards? 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 25 2014 at 16:46
Originally posted by Padraic Padraic wrote:


Originally posted by Kati Kati wrote:

I am not a great fan of Rush to be honest, 
Then you're dead to me.



I am going to tell my mom...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 25 2014 at 17:31
Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:


Originally posted by Padraic Padraic wrote:


Originally posted by Kati Kati wrote:

I am not a great fan of Rush to be honest, 
Then you're dead to me.
me too! LOL


Frankly speaking Padraic, I simply ignore what you said. I don’t judge people by their political choices, their beliefs being religions or not and certainly will not judge them by their musical preference.

When someone doesn’t particularly like a band that I do, I try find out what they like and possibly find similar choices to suggest some of my favorite tracks of the band to them because maybe the songs they heard were not the band’s best work etc. this happens especially in prog because of the diverse range. I have been lucky to change some friend’s opinion when it came to TFK and Pain of Salvation for instance. I am very open to trying new albums and love discovering old bands that I never heard before in my life, those are real gems.

I do not own any Rush albums, never seen a gig from them although given the opportunity I would because I know their concerts are a big event. My opinion will make no difference whatsoever to RUSH, it has no affect to their livelihood, they have a huge following, worked hard for it, made it into the hall of fame and deserve it too. Your closed comment to me is ok however does make my openness to the band even a more negative one.

P.S. This goes for you too,Rushfan4
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 25 2014 at 17:37
I obviously can't speak for the fox, Sonia, but I am pretty sure he was pulling your leg
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 25 2014 at 17:46
Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

I obviously can't speak for the fox, Sonia, but I am pretty sure he was pulling your leg


Thank you, Guldbamsen, I was unsure, well I still am a bit hehehe because I do know that some people could get upset regarding this matter but I certainly did not mean to offend anyone or impose my opinion whatsoever hugs
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 25 2014 at 17:49
Of course I was joking - who would seriously say something like that?  ConfusedLOL
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