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Points: 19535 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 13 2004 at 01:09

Quote I don't quite understand this.  Actually the continent the USA is on.. is called North America.  Your continent is called South America last I heard..

Nope Threefates, the whole continent is called America, there are only 5 (Maybe 6 Continents if Antartica is also considered) and there's no difference between North Central or South America.

South, Central or North America is only a name created to identify regions, but really there's not such thing. But that's not the problem.

USA is in fact United States of America, but the problem is that from the President to the last ctizen calls that country AMERICA, the networks call Bush The President of America (He's not my President), their second anthem is called America the Beautiful (Is there official anthem in USA? Because until 1896 there wasn't).

All of this as if the rest of the continent, including Canada and Mexico (Which are also North America) didn't exist.

Iván

PS: By the way, the official name of Brazil is United States of Brazil (Estados Unidos no Brasil ) and Mexico is United States of Mexico (Estados Unidos Mexicanos), because as United States of America they have a Federal Government divided by States, not because they copied anything.

So USA is not the only Federation of United States in America either



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Points: 3525 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 13 2004 at 03:47
Don't tell me you guys invented American Cheese too!
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Points: 5187 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 13 2004 at 03:48

Sorry, Ivan but choke.. choke Threefates is entirely correct!

The continents are:

Europe,Asia,Africa,Australasia, South America, North America and Antarctica.

As the great Cert would say,I am not offering an opinion, this is fact!Wink

Listen, Javelin-Boy we males need to assert our intellectual superiority over the girlies,blips like this do not help!LOL

Consider yourself on a Yellow Card!Wink



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Points: 3525 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 13 2004 at 03:49

Or that Kevin Spacey movie...South American Beauty!

wait, that wasn't Kevin Spacey...oops, I've said too much...
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Points: 2779 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 13 2004 at 07:33

I like Americans

Couldn't eat a whole one though...
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Points: 16130 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 13 2004 at 11:08

I've never met an American I've disliked, and the US will always be one of the best places in the world to visit IMO..

But who the f**k put that turkey in the Whitehouse?? None of my US acquaintences will own up to it..

 
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Points: 5502 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 13 2004 at 11:19

First I voted for america, then I voted against america



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Originally posted by Reed Lover Reed Lover wrote:

 

Europe,Asia,Australasia, South America, North America and Antarctica.

 

 

Freudian slip to omit Africa?????
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Yep, my atlas, my dictionary and my encyclopedia says 7 continents.

North America, South American, Africa, Europe, Asia, Australia, & Antarctica

None of these say that both continents together are known as America... The only reference to anything known as just America is the USA.

Central America is actually a part of North America.

 
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I like my country.  I like the area in which I live California and I think that we as a country can be very Arrogant. No more so and probably less than when Britain ruled most of the world (at least we did not export slavery) or France in it's colonization period (or any other European country).  We are the leaders of the "Free World" How did we get there? How did we become the target (and the paradise)?  By helping win a war and helping a lot of countries win that war. You can't argue this. We outlasted the Soviet Union and became "the" power. It won't last forever and I guess the next big question is who replaces us?

 

 
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Points: 5187 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 13 2004 at 14:03
Originally posted by Garion81 Garion81 wrote:

 

I like my country.  I like the area in which I live California and I think that we as a country can be very Arrogant. No more so and probably less than when Britain ruled most of the world (at least we did not export slavery) or France in it's colonization period (or any other European country).  We are the leaders of the "Free World" How did we get there? How did we become the target (and the paradise)?  By helping win a war and helping a lot of countries win that war. You can't argue this. We outlasted the Soviet Union and became "the" power. It won't last forever and I guess the next big question is who replaces us?

 

(at least we did not export slavery)

But you were the biggest market for it!
Most people do not realise that Black Africa itself has a very guilty conscience where slavery is concerned.
Yes, The British Empire was an enormous bully and subjugator of peoples, but aren't we supposed to learn the lessons of history-not repeat them?



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Points: 4338 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 13 2004 at 14:12
Originally posted by Reed Lover Reed Lover wrote:

Originally posted by Garion81 Garion81 wrote:

 

 

(at least we did not export slavery)

But you were the biggest market for it!
Most people do not realise that Black Africa itself has a very guilty conscience where slavery is concerned.
Yes, The British Empire was an enormous bully and subjugator of peoples, but aren't we supposed to learn the lessons of history-not repeat them?

We were YOUR colony for Gods sake, Reed. Britain controled the trade in and out of this country. Anytime they wanted to stop the huge profits they could have.  Britian was our main model! So it's all your fault!  

 There is never any real peace is there no matter who is on top.  I would think we would be a bit more tolerant than lets say China or the Soviet Union if they were on top (ask the People in Budapest or the students in Bejieng)

Damn it man! Do we need another tea party?
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Points: 4215 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 13 2004 at 14:30
These days I would think it would be more of a coffee party.  Afterall I saw more Starbucks in London than I did in Seattle....
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Points: 19535 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 13 2004 at 15:34

 

Threefates wrote:

Quote Yep, my atlas, my dictionary and my encyclopedia says 7 continents.

Probably your Enciclopedia and Atlas says that, if printed in USA or Western Europe. My Atlas talks about 6 continents as any Atlas from most Europe, and according to the British texts, there are ony 5 Continents, so I wont't have to choke as my friend Reed Lover said.

The seven continent model is taught in parts of Western Europe and North America, while the six continent (combined Eurasia) model is also taught in North America and is the primary continent model used in scientific contexts. The six continent (combined Americas) model is commonly taught in Europe and South America. The five continent model is normally taught in the United Kingdom and Mexico. The continents of the "five continents" model (as shown by the five Olympic Games flag rings) are speculated to be the five permamently populated continents (viewing Antarctica as only temporarily populated, and all the Americas as one).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continent

There's no logical reason to separate North from Soth America, because both are only one mass of earth not naturally separeted.

But again, that's not my point, from an historic point of view, America is the Continent discovered by Columbus in 1492, and not only USA.

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^ wow, that is really interesting! I didn't realize there was a debate over the actual number of continents.

Do you think somewhere there's a cartography or geography forum where they have a dedicated long-running thread or two on the topic? I suppose someone might find that more important than Phil Collins (hard as it may be to imagine).

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Points: 5187 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 13 2004 at 17:27

Their is a perfectly logical reason to distinguish between North and south America-they are completely seperate land masses floating on completely seperate tectonic plates.

Antarctica too is a continent-it has nothing to do with population;permanent or otherwise.

Tongue

Hey Ivan:

 

 

 

 

duck!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Points: 4338 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 13 2004 at 17:32
Originally posted by James Lee James Lee wrote:

^ wow, that is really interesting! I didn't realize there was a debate over the actual number of continents.

Do you think somewhere there's a cartography or geography forum where they have a dedicated long-running thread or two on the topic? I suppose someone might find that more important than Phil Collins (hard as it may be to imagine).

Hmmmm..  Do you think they have a Thread catagorie called "Things not related to Maps?

Maybe you will find a "Phil Collins Prog or not" thread in there?  Or more likely "Poll: "Has Phil Collins Head been charted yet?"

 



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GIVE BACK THE SACRED TERRITORIES TO THE NATIVE INDIANS, YANKEES!!

I LIKE THE USA BUT I'M SCARED ABOUT HIS GOVERNEMENT!!
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Originally posted by Garion81 Garion81 wrote:

Originally posted by James Lee James Lee wrote:

^ wow, that is really interesting! I didn't realize there was a debate over the actual number of continents.

Do you think somewhere there's a cartography or geography forum where they have a dedicated long-running thread or two on the topic? I suppose someone might find that more important than Phil Collins (hard as it may be to imagine).

Hmmmm..  Do you think they have a Thread catagorie called "Things not related to Maps?

Maybe you will find a "Phil Collins Prog or not" thread in there?  Or more likely "Poll: "Has Phil Collins Head been charted yet?"

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Points: 19535 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 13 2004 at 18:39

The funny thing is that i like USA and most of their people (Well I say most because there are a$$holes everywhere we have a good bunch here, specially inour Government), don't have nothing against them or their Government (I have a neutral position towards Bush). As I said I lived in the deep south of USA (Birmingham Alabama) a couple of years and enjoyed very much.

Only that even when we live in small third world countries we are as part of America as USA.

Maybe it's only that I'm stubborn.

Good idea about mapping Phil Collins head.  

Iván



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