Is Robert Fripp Overrated?

^^^ and I'll take an original composer over some "look at me mum" shredder any day of the week. I grew up all excited about long haired guitarists who could play really fast and use classical references in their music. Then I discovered the likes of Lifeson, Gilmour and Fripp and all those 'heroes' just seemed a bit... you know..

Plus they mostly made predictable sh*t music imo...

Edited by Blacksword - July 29 2014 at 04:51

Dayvenkirq wrote: Actually? I've already explained to you why it is. Time to stop beating the dead horse.

that first part may sound complex but it's just a combination of sounds that lie close to each other, nothing special actually. You hear it but you can't see it. I see it.

http://www.songsterr.com/a/wsa/king-crimson-fracture-tab-s40543t0

Dayvenkirq wrote:   I never said anything of the kind. When did I ever say that?

You said "I've explained why "Fracture" sounds complex to me. That's mostly a guitar-oriented piece, but by and large it's a group effort." while it was not the point, besides this particular song isn't very complex actually.

Trouble is the sitting down thing becomes a statement so it still plays into an image and helping sell records. I'm not sure that he is viewed with any more suspicion than the many individuals that are in rock bands who are generally not always the 'nicest' people.  Jolly good wheeze to be able to sit down on the job and make it look like some high integrity.IMO

ok, listen,

all of this bickering about Fripp being "Overrated" (or not).....is useless.    When someone says, "overrated", is he/she referring to the critics' judgment?     Or the judgment of a bunch of generally anonymous (except this website!  ha!)  fans?    (many of whom Fripp has stated himself were too drunk or stoned at the concerts to even appreciate his work)

What do you MEAN or INTEND by "overrated"??

So what if he IS "overrated" by whatever standard or criteria YOU (the original poster & genesis of this thread) have going?


    Is that going to stop hard-core Crimson enthusiasts from shelling out 100+ dollars for the "Road to Red" boxed set?........or,........how about the equally expensive "Larks' Tongues Complete set"?

Does it REALLY matter to the world if he is ...........hmmmf......"O-V-E-R-R-A-T-E-D"?

Just shut up and play yer guitar!

cstack3 wrote: ProgMetaller2112 wrote: Yes or No? No.  I've played guitar & bass for over 40 years and have yet to meet another player with Fripp's unique sonic vocabulary.  I've enjoyed meeting Bob, he's absolutely brilliant.  This is nice...

That is nice. Thanks for posting. Love Sylvians voice. Agree about fripp too. One of my favourite musicians.

Anthony wrote: renaudbb wrote: Are "Red", "In the Court" or "Lizard" overrated ? That's only three albums out of the many. In totality, yes, Fripp is terribly overrated. How can anyone believe that King Crimson is better than other bands when half of the time it has been disbanded? And then I'm not even talking about the lack of melodies.

I notice a lot of euros such as yourself aren't too high on mr. Fripp. It's a shame not to embrace such a fellow europer as the man, the myth-the one called fripp. He never stopped being at the leading edge of prog, and most prog guitarists aren't worthy enough to tine his guitar.

Music is overrated.

Dayvenkirq wrote: I know that. The confusion here arose from the fact that you have made a number of statements in a post, I separated them and addressed each one of them individually. Ostensibly, we made a whole tree of arguments. I don't know why you would assume that I thought articulation was about complexity.

you came up with that complexity argument as the most important thing, I was talking about Fripp's abilities. Like I said earlier, KC may be complex but this complexity goes beyond Fripp's skills as a guitarist.


 

Dayvenkirq wrote: Why would you doubt it? Do you possess his intellect, playing habits, musical acumen, etc.? Who are we to assume what he doesn't know or what he can't accomplish? Maybe he could play them but chose not to (which is a great decision, if you ask me).

maybe punk rock guitarists were able to play Caprice but they chose not to...dunno, but I think they just couldn't do this cos it's not an easy thing to do.

Edited by LSDisease - July 28 2014 at 09:36

SteveG wrote: Crimson_King wrote: My good man, there is no such single entity as a "bad self"......nor is there what one might want to call a "good self" for that matter......according to RF, actually, (as well as several other so-called "philosophers" and "theologians" throughout the centuries) ..........there are an "infinite" number of selves wrapped up inside one particular human body.......This particular admirer of Fripp, Crimso Output  may go ahead and bring an end to this conscious existence very soon,......however, I doubt that Fripp would mind, BUT ONLY if he doesn't know who I am or why I am dying........The chances are very good that Robert Fripp will not miss my little measly 41-years of existence on this planet anyway..... as if I'm not as worthy as his mother for an acknowledgement of death and mourning........perhaps because his mother died of "somewhat" natural causes at a "reasonable age", but my death was self-perpetrated.I have a mother, and there is NOTHING that he will say to her, period, and, honestly.....why should he say something anyway?  I would doubt that he would be interested in communicating with the mother of a suicide perpetrator.  ha!  For all that I know, he may feel extreme contempt for both myself and my family members!    hmmmmfph!in fact, he most likely will not even be made aware that someone committed suicide with "Starless & Bible Black" playing in the background.......ha!And forget about Bruford.......he would NEVER EVER come to the knowledge that someone admired his work for x number of years, then committed suicide..........think about it, and think about the general attitude of these 2 men specifically when applied to "enthusiasts" or "admirers".....lol. I don't know about you people but I'm never going to listen to KC again, it's Lady GaGa from here on.