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Certif1ed wrote: Penderecki : Threnody for the Victims of Hiroshima Messian : Quator Pour La Fin du Temps Squiban : Molene Stockhausen : Gesang Der Junglinge Schoenberg : Pierrot Lunaire Miles Davis : Bitches Brew Rakhmaninov : Cello Concerto Franz Ferdinand : Franz Ferdinand Metallica : Master of Puppets Kraftwerk : The Man Machine

Jeez, cert you are a right bundle of laughs aren't you?

Penderecki : Threnody for the Victims of Hiroshima

Messian : Quator Pour La Fin du Temps

Squiban : Molene

Stockhausen : Gesang Der Junglinge

Schoenberg : Pierrot Lunaire

Next week Cert is gonna summarise Proust in 30 seconds!

BTW whilst I like much of Miles' pre 1960 stuff I've never cared for "Bitches Brew" et al.I find it almost impenetrable, same with Coltrane's "Love Supreme."

James Lee wrote: Eddy wrote: im serouis when i say this. what does eclectical mean please. dont laugh   absolutely nothing. but 'eclectic' means various and especially wide-ranging; someone of eclectic tastes may like opera, gangsta rap, and Elizabethan folk music for instance.

On a serious note,Eddy's post proves to me that there is more to this lad than meets the eye:

what does eclectical mean please. dont laugh.

If he had said "what does eclectic mean" then....

Gosh Eddy your first slip.

Certif1ed wrote: Reed Lover wrote: Jeez, cert you are a right bundle of laughs aren't you? Penderecki : Threnody for the Victims of Hiroshima Messian : Quator Pour La Fin du Temps Squiban : Molene Stockhausen : Gesang Der Junglinge Schoenberg : Pierrot Lunaire I take it you've never studied these works? Messiaen is one of my favourite composers - his music almost redefines what music is (to me!). Squiban may be boring to you, but it's tranquil, relaxing music to me... Your response to Pierrot surprises me a little - it's typical of someone who takes music purely at face value... You obviously don't like much Zappa or fusion then? Next week Cert is gonna summarise Proust in 30 seconds! Why - what did he compose - and why would I want to perform nanoscopic analysis on someone who is notorious for just that? Yeah but you fell for it didnt you-I was anticipating a 3 page rant not your weak paragraph! BTW whilst I like much of Miles' pre 1960 stuff I've never cared for "Bitches Brew" et al.I find it almost impenetrable, same with Coltrane's "Love Supreme." You need to get past the surface, young Grasshopper  Dont call me shallow you CultureS nob

No I've even heard of Squiban, but the title Molene sounded boring.I've certainly not heard Poirot Lunaire, although we touched on Schoenberg when I was at school. My peeved reaction is because you posted before I could post my mock Cert's eclectic list!

BTW please dont correct my A.C. reference, you will disappoint me!

I told you not to correct my Agatha Christie reference.

I will get you for that!

BTW the music is fine.Not sure about the vox though. Lyrics are excellent!
Not sure where the entertainment value lies though?

Yes - the German is the original - the whole piece is very dark.

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The vocals on that particular recording are the best I've ever heard - and I own 3 recordings of it. The interpretation is superb and bang up to date - it sounds utterly timeless to me. Listening to that I can hardly believe Schoenberg composed the music (and invented the style of composition) back in 1912.

The vocals are supposed to sound like that - it's a style of singing Schoenberg invented called Sprechgesang, or Sprechstimme and the idea is that you don't actually sing the notes, but speak at pitch - it's an incredibly difficult technique. If you take the meaning of the words and listen, it paints an incredibly ghoulish and nightmarish picture - but that little mind of yours needs to be wide open

Entertainment value?

Not sure - even I find it heavy going to listen to all of it. I tend to take it in chunks - when the s/o is out. The poetry is superb, but the music and style of singing caused an outrage at the first performance - all the reviews were negative. However, it has been a source of inspiration for many 20th Century composers - there's a lot of mileage in the ideas. You could see it as the ultimate in compositional expression - years, if not centuries ahead of its time. Or you could have a damn good laugh at the silly voices - but that entertainment doesn't last long, trust me...

Cert1fied

Thank you Cert, I'm attempting to download it right now. I'm such a , I hope to get it up and running properly.

Well it all works.

I like to stretch my mind a little. frantic, neurotic and sinister are words that come to mind while listening to these little peaces. I need a full album or song before i can say whether i like it or not, but I'm not disliking what I heard, so I'll bookmark this pieces for future refference.

Thanks again Cert. 

Certif1ed wrote:  Paganini

Chlomo Mintz doing the 24 caprices is essential.

Wizard/TRueStar wrote: Certif1ed wrote:  Paganini Chlomo Mintz doing the 24 caprices is essential.

Thanks - I'll check that out. I only have a recording of Yehudi Menuhin playing them - and he makes a right pig's ear out of them!

BTW, if you like Paganini, have you heard any music by Tartini? Tartini was a contemporary of Vivaldi, and the most notable of his works is a short piece called the "Devil's Trill Sonata", which is one of the most fiendish pieces ever written for violin. The story goes that the Devil came to Tartini in a dream and taught him the treble-stopped trill sequence at the end of this sonata - which is a pretty wild piece in it's own right. I'm forever buying records with interpretations of this piece on, in the vain hope that I might one day hear someone who can actually play the thing!