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Rick Robson 
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That guitar solo in The Lamia is always nice to listen to, btw the whole track is amazing too, and everything in The Lamb is worth listening to...
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Michael678
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Posted: May 30 2014 at 20:57 |
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Actually the songs narrator could be sperm describing his owner "the beast" as having erectile dysfunction but in the end the sperm get's ejected into a vagina.
Either way it isn't about a devil like creature and cities of gold.
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........what........the f**k......???? 
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Tom Ozric
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Posted: May 30 2014 at 22:05 |
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Counting Out Time :
Without you, what would a poor boy do ??
Without you, mankind handkinds through the blues.....
Pete knew.
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Posted: May 31 2014 at 00:49 |
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So, Freud has risen from the dead and joined PA, with a new-found love for Genesis.
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Posted: May 31 2014 at 02:28 |
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^ No, not Genesis. Masturbation.......
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lazland
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Posted: May 31 2014 at 02:40 |
It's no wonder I didn't have a clue what on earth he was wittering on about when I responded yesterday.
Couldn't someone lock this nonsense, please?
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Posted: May 31 2014 at 02:51 |
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I've squinted at the lettering, but it still says 'Trick' to me. Then again, I could never 'see' those Magic Eye pictures that you used to find everywhere.
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Moogtron III
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Posted: May 31 2014 at 04:11 |
Cheeky? Not even tongue-in-cheeky, or is that a Freudian slip of the tongue (nudge nudge, wink wink  ) as well?
Okay, this is a sort of Just For Fun thread. Find Freudian meanings in Genesis songs and art work. Not so difficult, but an expensive hobby. Entangled says that the nurse will present you the bill of your Freudian in depth-analysis, right?
The thread should be moved to the JFF section IMHO. I've been mesmerized enough mysel, though. 
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Posted: May 31 2014 at 05:19 |
Looked like f**k to me when I first bought the album. Just the font they used of course...
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Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
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Posted: May 31 2014 at 05:29 |
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I agree with the Belgian moog, so I moved this to just for fun:-)
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Matthew _Gill
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Posted: May 31 2014 at 05:54 |
lazland wrote:
It's no wonder I didn't have a clue what on earth he was wittering on about when I responded yesterday.
Couldn't someone lock this nonsense, please? |
Might be for the best, I'm about to break Robbery, Assault and battery down...
"Come outside with your hands held high" "With that he fired"
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HolyMoly
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Posted: May 31 2014 at 08:01 |
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Don't lock it yet, I want to see what Ripples is really about.
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Matthew _Gill
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Posted: May 31 2014 at 14:41 |
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I'm struggling to sexualise Entangled. It could be about someone suffering from priapism.
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HolyMoly
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Posted: May 31 2014 at 16:38 |
Matthew _Gill wrote:
I'm struggling to sexualise Entangled. It could be about someone suffering from priapism. |
ironically, that's the one song that does mention Freud.
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Polymorphia
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Posted: May 31 2014 at 16:57 |
I might consider it with Peter Gabriel (or more likely Ian Anderson), but think back to Invisible Touch. Phil Collins is not that subtle of a lyricist. It's all actually pretty literal as that's the only way that they have any sort of consistency. There might be some double entendres (less than you're seeing, I think) but it certainly isn't main point of the album. This is my take:
Dance on the Volcano: A man is climbing a volcano. "She can turn you to stone" is petrification via lava. The "halfway up/halfway down/pack on your back is turning you around" indicates that he is tired and is attempted to turn back. I have no idea what "crosses are green/crosses are blue" means, but I don't know how that would indicate anything sexual.
Entangled: a man goes to see a hypnotist doctor to get rid of his dreams. This one is hard to interpret because of weird phrases like "over the rooftops and houses" (if it's over the rooftops is not already over the houses, and vice versa?)
Squonk: the red rag hanging from the open mouth is blood. Red clothing is used often in poetry to indicate blood. The main character is alive at both ends and dead in the middle because he's been stabbed. The character is an animal (called a "squonk"). He is being hunted and turns into a pool of tears when the hunter gets him. The key to interpreting the song is at the end. I doubt that PC was referencing a male prostitute (pronoun "he")
Mad Man Moon: If I were going to say that there was anything nefarious about the snowflake in June, it would probably be because I assumed it was about cocaine. I'm too tired to interpret this one right now, though. It's filled with rather vague phrases.
Robbery, Assault and Battery: is about a bank robber. Easily.
Ripples is about a man going out to sea to find a land of prosperity and getting himself lost. The "pulls you down to your knees" line indicates begging and the pool that appears is the ocean. Basically, before he knows it, he's sailing off to find this land of flowing honey. Bluegirls are bodies of water.
The title track is about that satyr on the cover leaving his "city of gold" to find love, ending up in the human world and finding that they have no "horn" or "tail" like he does. They're disgusted and afraid of him, and imprison him. He escapes and goes back home and the humans see a glimmer of that city of gold. Or perhaps it's just a trick of the eye? And why would you say it isn't about a satyr leaving a city of gold? More likely that than from the perspective of a lonely sperm in an owner with erectile dysfunction.
Edited by Polymorphia - May 31 2014 at 17:50
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Posted: May 31 2014 at 17:31 |
Matthew _Gill wrote:
Tom Ozric wrote:
Don't delay, dock the dick. Peter knew. |
I'm Counting Out Time to hear that song again, though I do like the sound of my Musical Box for now.
I don't believe Genesis ever wrote about sex whilst Angel Gabriel was pulling the strings. |
This thread is a pile of overly sexualized poppycock and I shouldn't take the effort to post in it, but I have a weak moment. Just a few remarks: - The artwork is slightly derivative:
The original is named Stunning C s, I presume. - The Father Tiresias-chorus in The Cinema Show is about sex.
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HackettFan
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Posted: May 31 2014 at 19:30 |
Matthew_Gill wrote:
Or was it just another dam.
When the evil of a snowflake in June
Could still be a source of relief
An obvious reference to masturbation |
Maybe it's not about masturbation. Maybe June is a woman.
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Polymorphia
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Posted: May 31 2014 at 19:44 |
HackettFan wrote:
Matthew_Gill wrote:
Or was it just another dam.
When the evil of a snowflake in June
Could still be a source of relief
An obvious reference to masturbation |
Maybe it's not about masturbation. Maybe June is a woman. |
Or maybe June is a man, and sperm comes in flakes.
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Tom Ozric
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Posted: May 31 2014 at 20:15 |
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Maybe June is the start of the Summer season - why would there be a snowflake in Summer, and why is it evil ?? Surely Banks wouldn't be sitting there, pen in hand, thinking "now how can I word sexual references subliminally??" C'mon, these comparisons are really preposterous.
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HackettFan
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Posted: May 31 2014 at 22:49 |
Tom Ozric wrote:
Maybe June is the start of the Summer season - why would there be a snowflake in Summer, and why is it evil ?? Surely Banks wouldn't be sitting there, pen in hand, thinking "now how can I word sexual references subliminally??" C'mon, these comparisons are really preposterous. |
Before I went into linguistics I got my Bachelor's in Fine Arts. It was actually a common practice for artists to intentionally incorporate phallic symbols into artwork precisely because of prior far-fetched analyses. It was quite a conscious effort and a little joke on those who want to read an artist's subconscious. I could see Banks being of a mind to intentionally burying sexual references. Whether he actually did here... And whether it was done through the whole album... Well, it seems far-fetched to me too.
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