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Prog 74
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Posted: March 21 2014 at 15:26 |
I have dozens and dozens of classical cd's. Among my most recent purchases was a complete Mahler symphony set conducted by Bernstein, Shostakovich's Symphonies 1 & 7 also conducted by Bernstein and the complete symphonies of Vaughan Williams conducted by Leonard Slatkin. Bruckner is definitely one of my favorite composers and I have a complete set of his symphonies conducted by Eugen Jochum which was recorded in the 50s & 60s. I have had vintage recordings from the 30s & 40s before but the sound was always a turnoff for me. I prefer my recordings to be in modern stereo instead of mono. I like George Szell's recordings of Beethoven, Brahms, Dvorak, Mendelssohn & Schubert. He really brought a fiery passion to his recordings which I like. I also have Munch's recording of Berlioz's Symphonie Fantastique. Outstanding!
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presdoug
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Posted: March 21 2014 at 16:31 |
^Welcome. An interesting perspective. I love Munch in the Fantastique, especially with the Paris Orchestra (1967) I have that Eugen Jochum set, and quite like it. I quite like Szell, and have his Beethoven cycle, and Bruckner 3, 7 and 8, and also some R. Strauss pieces-awesome!
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Prog 74
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Posted: March 21 2014 at 17:10 |
Szell was a great Strauss conductor for sure. His recording of Don Quixote, Don Juan and the Horn Concerto is very good. I would also recommend Evgeny Mravinsky's recording of Tchaikovsky's symphonies 4, 5 & 6. You won't believe this is the same composer who wrote Swan Lake & the Nutcracker! This recording absolutely smokes!
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presdoug
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Posted: March 26 2014 at 20:49 |
I just had an incredibly moving experience listening to the first movement of Mahler's 9th conducted by Otto Klemperer on EMI Studio. It was breathtaking and such an experience that no one should be without!
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Prog 74
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Posted: March 27 2014 at 10:48 |
I've heard Klemperer's Mahler 9th and totally agree with you. It's so monumental! I wish Klemperer would've recorded more Mahler since he had such an affinity for him.
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presdoug
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Posted: March 27 2014 at 12:10 |
^I was so moved by it, I cried.
I also like his Mahler 2,4,and 7.
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Prog 74
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Posted: March 27 2014 at 16:24 |
Klemperer's Mahler 2nd is a landmark recording, no doubt about it. Klemperer was a pretty good conductor. I especially like his way with Bach. Those who prefer their baroque performed with small ensembles and on period instruments will certainly run screaming out of the room!
Are you familiar with Eine Alpensinfonie from Richard Strauss? So powerful and majestic!
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presdoug
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Posted: March 27 2014 at 16:47 |
Yes, Klemperer is really something, I also love his Bruckner and Beethoven symphony recordings.
I love EineAlpinesinfonie, especially the recordings with Karl Bohm and Strauss himself. Oh, and Karajan's one as well. It is a sublime work.
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Prog 74
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Posted: March 28 2014 at 10:42 |
Totally agree. The version I have is Karajan's who excelled in Strauss. I don't typically go for Karajan recordings as there are generally too lush sounding for my taste, but the lushness actually works beautifully in Strauss. Bohm was a great Strauss conductor as well, but I have not heard any recordings from Strauss himself. Klemperer's Beethoven recordings are legendary. I like how heavy & gothic they sound. The 6th is one of the best I have ever heard.
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Posted: March 28 2014 at 10:50 |
We should do our lists of favorite symphonists. For me:
1. L. v Beethoven 2. A. Bruckner 3. D. Shostakovitch
And, in no clear order:
R. Schumann, J. Brahms, J. Sibelius, P. Tchaikovsky, G. Mahler, A. Borodin, A. Dvorak, and so many, many more. But my "desert island" symphonists are the three above.
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Posted: March 28 2014 at 10:53 |
presdoug wrote:
Yes, Klemperer is really something
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He was so good that even in music that was totally different from his area of comfort (if we consider romanticism as that area) he somehow excelled. As I said before, Klempeper's Bach's St. Matthew Passion lasts longer than the entire lent period it would seem , but it is unique, profound, solemn, glorious, and manages to survive among the sea of HIP performances.
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Prog 74
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Posted: March 28 2014 at 11:14 |
The T wrote:
We should do our lists of favorite symphonists. For me:
1. L. v Beethoven
2. A. Bruckner
3. D. Shostakovitch
And, in no clear order:
R. Schumann, J. Brahms, J. Sibelius, P. Tchaikovsky, G. Mahler, A. Borodin, A. Dvorak, and so many, many more. But my "desert island" symphonists are the three above. |
My top 10 are:
1. Beethoven (naturally )
2. Brahms
3. Mahler
4. Vaughan Williams
5. Bruckner
6. Dvorak (symphonies 6-9)
7. Nielsen
8. Haydn (the London Symphonies)
9. Tchaikovsky (symphonies 4-6)
10. Sibelius
Of course Schubert, Schumann, Mozart, Shostakovich, Borodin, Berlioz & Franck all wrote excellent symphonies as well. On any given day my favorites will change.
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presdoug
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Posted: March 28 2014 at 11:15 |
my top three symphonists are
1) A. Bruckner 2) H. Berlioz 3) R. Strauss
and also Tchaikovsky, Mahler, Elgar, Sibelius, Beethoven, Brahms, Shostakovitch are up there below those three for me.
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Prog 74
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Posted: March 28 2014 at 16:16 |
Are you familiar with the symphonies of Rued Langgaard? They're pretty amazing and actually rather proggy. Definitely modern. Charles Ives is another modern composer I like, but he is more of an acquired taste. Ives incorporates a lot of American folk music and spirituals into his music which I find quite fascinating.
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presdoug
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Posted: March 28 2014 at 16:23 |
^I've never even heard of Langgaard. Are there historical recordings of his symphonies? (knowing me) I love Charles Ives symphonies, especially the first two, I have the world premiere recording of the 1st with Morton Gould conducting, fabulous, and am looking for the 2nd with Bernard Herrmann conducting, which is hard to find. I also like his "Holidays Symphony" Have you heard any of Roy Harris's symphonies? Or my fellow Canadian Healey Willan? They are quite striking, but overlooked.
Edited by presdoug - March 28 2014 at 16:24
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Prog 74
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Posted: March 28 2014 at 17:17 |
I've heard of Roy Harris and he is quite good I must say, but I am not familiar with Healey Willan. I'll have to investigate him. Any recommendations? I'm not aware of any historical recordings of Langgaard. His symphonies were neglected for decades and were quite obscure and have only recently been recorded (that I know of). He is in the same vein as Sibelius and Nielsen though more progressive I would say.
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presdoug
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Posted: March 29 2014 at 07:32 |
I would recommend Willan's 2nd Symphony. There are a couple of really good recordings of it done in Canada, one with the superb conductor Karel Ancerl and I think the Toronto Symphony (but haven't seen it on cd yet) and another recording on cd with Uri Mayer. I will check out Langgaard on youtube.
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Prog 74
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Posted: March 31 2014 at 09:50 |
I listened to some Willan and he is quite good. A great recommendation!
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Rick Robson
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Posted: April 05 2014 at 12:16 |
HAPPY BIRTHDAY Heribert Ritter von Karajan !!
Edited by Rick Robson - April 17 2014 at 17:13
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"Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy." LvB
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Prog 74
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Posted: April 05 2014 at 12:48 |
^ Happy Birthday Karajan!
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