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Wow - How much did that set you back? - Apart from the Moog Rogue I bought - never really played an instrument - My son has two professional keyboards - a Roland and a Korg - don't know what models they are! I admire anybody who can play a guitar properly, I really should take it up but if I couldn't play like Steve Hackett in a month I'd be pissed off!!!
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Thanks to jnkls for bringing us back to reality.
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Originally posted by M27Barney M27Barney wrote:

Wow - How much did that set you back? - Apart from the Moog Rogue I bought - never really played an instrument - My son has two professional keyboards - a Roland and a Korg - don't know what models they are! I admire anybody who can play a guitar properly, I really should take it up but if I couldn't play like Steve Hackett in a month I'd be pissed off!!!



$1000.  It's a $1400 guitar, so I got a pretty good deal (got $200 on trade for an old guitar of mine that was not so good).  It was worth it.  I've been playing for about 30 years, and I can't play like Steve Hackett Wink  However, I can play mostly whatever I'd like.  I probably COULD mimic Hackett if I really felt the need, but I prefer to do my own thing.  Roine has probably been my biggest influence in the past 10 years, though Hackett was one of them when I was younger (and I still love what he puts out).  Gilmour is probably my biggest influence of all.........though this is my first Fender I've owned since college.
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Every time I hear Fender Stratocaster Zappa runs through my head

"...it was a Stratocaster with a whammy bar"

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been looking into my classic progressive rock band`s. music yes. playing the music form the start of my prog rock listening time. Yes ctte, Genesis ft/sebtp ELP bss and VDGG. a good dose of KG too!. what a magical listening time I had. which gotten me thinking about definition of progressive rock!. what was the first album to be called progressive rock. . . .


been reading book`s on the prog band`s Yes/Genesis/Tull/ELP/Marillion !.
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the progressive rock handbook = Jerry Lucky
rocking the classics = Edward Macan
the music`s all that matters = Paul Stump



great read`s and PORG TOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!.     
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geekfreak, I think that question (what was the first album to be called progressive rock) is not really answerable.  According to our esteemed Dean, the term progressive rock was in use in the late 60's.  Members of progarchives have argued endlessly over which album was the first progressive rock album.  I always said In The Court Of The Crimson King, but I'm not really sure that is absolutely true.  Procol Harum had an 18 minute track on their 1968 album, the Pretty Things released a concept album / rock opera in 1966 (before Tommy), and the Moody Blues album  Days Of Future Past, from 1967, is drenched in mellotron and has flute and orchestra (as well as being a concept album).  There's also Sgt. Peppers.

I guess I still think of Court as the first "prog as I know it" album, but I'm not sure it's really the first prog album.  As far as what was called "progressive" first, it's hard to say.  That term was used to describe Pink Floyd in 1967, but I think the term was probably used before that.
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And of course, there may be several dozen long forgotten efforts between 1965 - 1969 that may also qualify! I think that ITCOTCK is widely recognised as the first! Sgt. Peppers in no way qualifies - No Mellotron! DoTFP is a good call though.....
In my opinion - Symphonic progressive rock's debut was - Genesis, Trespass - the use of twelve strings and then the impressive Hammond driven "The Knife" !!! - Sublime (Stagnation / The Knife are still in my top tracks of all time!)
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yes they are two classic Genesis songs and a great album too!. but the
no Mellotron! on Sgt Pepper is still slips in to the prog. its a concept album. than I ask you this what`s the greatest concept album. my are TFTO/TLLDOB/PH/MC. . . .
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Yes but you can have non prog concept albums surely?
Or are we considering that a concept album is (by some kind of de-facto rule) ALWAYS progressive rock?
Not too sure about that!
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Isn't that why the Who are on here?

Still, it's a good point.  I would argue that Sgt. Peppers was extremely progressive for 1967.  So I think it qualifies.
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Who do we tell if we notice album details that are incorrect (on this site) - genesis - seconds out has a problem with the track length of Carpet crawl and I think a typo in the band/instrument details?
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Originally posted by M27Barney M27Barney wrote:

Who do we tell if we notice album details that are incorrect (on this site) - genesis - seconds out has a problem with the track length of Carpet crawl and I think a typo in the band/instrument details?



Post them here:  http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=82726

They are pretty good about getting to them quickly.
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maybe we all need to keep from being stop looking into everything.
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Originally posted by geekfreak geekfreak wrote:

maybe we all need to keep from being stop looking into everything.

If I spot an error , I have to report it - it's all part of the scientific constant pursuit of truth !!!
And since Stolt said that "The Truth will set you free" (whereas I think he means in the fecking bible which makes me Laaarrff) - But I reckon track timings are the biggest area of errata - where the true time and the given time (on a CD or vinyl) are not the same !!!
And yes - I am similar to John Cleese's character from the film Clockwise ! I hate unpunctuality !!!
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I don`t now why but i think you are a great gent. are you a Manchester boy.
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Aye I'm from Manchester - Born & Lived in Swinton all my life - though I have visited a fair few other countries and visited (and worked) in a lot of other counties of Britain!
And Yes - Ive been to Stone Henge which is in your neck of the woods I think. Marvellous bit of ancient stone masonry there I think - and just to think that they accomplished that several thousand years before some loonies wrote the bible!
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Strange though it may seem, I was looking through my diary entries for 1978. Twas on 23/09/1978 when I went into Manchester and Bought Tales from Topographic Oceans (Gate-sleeved Vinyl) for the princely sum of £3.99...Strange entry since (The it mentioned and triggered the full memory) when I got off the bus in the Arndale centre, I was crossing the bus depot, heading to get myself three or four sausage rolls from Greggs, When an Old lady tripped and fell face down. I legged over to her and told her not to try to get up because I could see that her leg was quite badly broken and I was sure that she had possibly other injuries - there were several other people around just gawping including two nuns! - I shouted for somebody to go into greggs and get them to phone an ambulance and they all just stood and gawped!
A Bus driver, ran across from his cab and it was he who called in an ambulance - I stayed with the old dear unable to really assist in any way except to tell her that keeping still was for the best till a paramedic could assess her properly. Just kept her talking and was glad that she didn't show signs of passing out - The ambulance took about eight mins to get to her, and obviously took over! I was glad to get on my feet, and fill my face with sausage rolls! Well the moral of this story is that it was the supposedly amoral Atheist who was first to aid the lady and not the two sisters of Jesus who were stood no more than 10 feet away and who just rubber-necked!
Interestingly, I first started to listen to Topographic oceans at 11:45 on 23/09/1978......
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tales is a super album. ok I was born in Salford Manchester on 27/11 in Hope Hospital. like your memory. we must have gotten the album from the same place. I`d live in other this country. not Scotland/wales. I`m at the same time as writing this headphones on. Echolyn Suffocating the bloom cd. I`m also not long ago home for the workplace      

now chilling out before sleeeeeeeeeeeeeep!.
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