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What a totally negative thread...scraping the barrel stuff
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Platinum....the perfect crossover album, one of Oldfield's prized jewel. Just shows how appalling opinions can beDead
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Points: 10213 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 12 2014 at 05:48
Originally posted by Chris S Chris S wrote:


Originally posted by Svetonio Svetonio wrote:


Platinum....the perfect crossover album, one of Oldfield's prized jewel. Just shows how appalling opinions can beDead




This is e.g. a far better crossover prog album (the term did not exist at that time, though) but extremely conspicuous as a bad album, although there are some strong tracks unlike Mr Oldfield's Platinium bullsh*tt
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The OP is asking for the one album in an artists discography that ruins it. That means you think Platinum is the only bad album by Oldfield. I find your opinion unfathomable. There are easily half a dozen worse than Platinum. Platinum isn't top 3, but its certainly not bottom 1.

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Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

The OP is asking for the one album in an artists discography that ruins it. That means you think Platinum is the only bad album by Oldfield. I find your opinion unfathomable. There are easily half a dozen worse than Platinum. Platinum isn't top 3, but its certainly not bottom 1.


Maybe I misunderstood the question from the OP,  but after Platinium I lost interest for further Oldfield's work, and I was not the only one.


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The Final Cut ruins Pink Floyds list
Love Beach and the followup ruins ELP
Big Generator ruins Yes
Presto ruins Rush


now for the flaming - theres always someone out ther in a negative thread who loves even this lot!
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Originally posted by Svetonio Svetonio wrote:

Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

The OP is asking for the one album in an artists discography that ruins it. That means you think Platinum is the only bad album by Oldfield. I find your opinion unfathomable. There are easily half a dozen worse than Platinum. Platinum isn't top 3, but its certainly not bottom 1.


Maybe I misunderstood the question from the OP,  but after Platinium I lost interest for further Oldfield's work, and I was not the only one.
 
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Originally posted by Xonty Xonty wrote:

Hello, can anyone think of any single albums that completely ruin a band's discography. Struggling to think of any in particular, as most prog bands just go downhill towards the end of their careers (ELP, Genesis, arguably Yes, Pink Floyd, etc.)
 
I happen to agree that TB through Incantations is by far the best period for Oldfield, I still like Crises, Platinum & QE2 but after that it drops off pretty dramatically. There's the occasional good album, Amarok & Songs Of Distant Earth for example, but otherwise not so much.


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Originally posted by AtomicCrimsonRush AtomicCrimsonRush wrote:

The Final Cut ruins Pink Floyds list
Love Beach and the followup ruins ELP
Big Generator ruins Yes
Presto ruins Rush


now for the flaming - theres always someone out ther in a negative thread who loves even this lot!


 
Well, I was just waiting for someone to mention Love Beach and Big Generator.
 
Have another listen to "I'm Running" from BG and then tell me it ruins Yes' discography.
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Originally posted by Tom Ozric Tom Ozric wrote:

Originally posted by Triceratopsoil Triceratopsoil wrote:

Ocean is kind of a turd compared to Eloy's previous 5 albums.  But some people are into turds, so that's ok.

Why would you say that ??? .


Extremely cheesy with poor production value and unmemorable compositions, whereas before they were putting out groovy hard-rocking psychedelia

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Have another listen to "I'm Running" from BG and then tell me it ruins Yes' discography.


The day that 1 track makes an entire album worth listening to is a sad day indeed

not that I can really comment as I've never bothered to listen to Big Generator
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I can't think of a single album that ever "ruined a discog" for me.  Yes some of my fave bands have dud albums but I think of them more as pieces of the puzzle.  
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Originally posted by Finnforest Finnforest wrote:

I can't think of a single album that ever "ruined a discog" for me.  Yes some of my fave bands have dud albums but I think of them more as pieces of the puzzle.  
 
Yeah...I have to agree with you. One bad LP doesn't "ruin a discography''....
 
and as Chris S said above it's a' "negative thread scraping the bottom of the barrel".
 
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Originally posted by Triceratopsoil Triceratopsoil wrote:

 
Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

 
Have another listen to "I'm Running" from BG and then tell me it ruins Yes' discography.


The day that 1 track makes an entire album worth listening to is a sad day indeed

not that I can really comment as I've never bothered to listen to Big Generator

Big Generator, although not a masterpiece by any means, isn't quite as bad as it's reputation.  On the other hand,Open Your Eyes is every bit as bad as it's reputation.
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Strange Terrain was a pretty low point for Jan Dukes de Grey. They basically took all the strengths of those wacky psychedelic tracks they did as Noy's Band and turned them into weaknesses. It's almost embarrassing to listen to. On the other hand, that hasn't tarnished my appreciation for Sorcerers and Mice and Rats in the Loft.




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Originally posted by AtomicCrimsonRush AtomicCrimsonRush wrote:

The Final Cut ruins Pink Floyds list
Love Beach and the followup ruins ELP
Big Generator ruins Yes
Presto ruins Rush


now for the flaming - theres always someone out ther in a negative thread who loves even this lot!




That would be me. Presto is one of my favorites. Cry
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Originally posted by Svetonio Svetonio wrote:

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

(...) and Oldfield managed his transition from epic instrumental works to a sleeker more band lead approach absolutely perfectly imo.

"transition"? that's very bad believe me LOL

He couldn't continue doing things that way (months and months in a studio) , it wasn't healthy for him. Transition is a bad word perhaps but he wanted to explore a different way of working. I quickly became very fond of Platinum when I strapped on a set of decent headphones and there is plenty to enjoy. I don't believe he compromised his approach he just changed that's all.


BTW have you heard Amarok? It was a bit of a return to his earlier style of music. A lot of people enjoy that who like the early stuff.
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Originally posted by Triceratopsoil Triceratopsoil wrote:

Originally posted by Tom Ozric Tom Ozric wrote:

Originally posted by Triceratopsoil Triceratopsoil wrote:

Ocean is kind of a turd compared to Eloy's previous 5 albums.  But some people are into turds, so that's ok.

Why would you say that ??? .


Extremely cheesy with poor production value and unmemorable compositions, whereas before they were putting out groovy hard-rocking psychedelia

Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

 
Have another listen to "I'm Running" from BG and then tell me it ruins Yes' discography.


The day that 1 track makes an entire album worth listening to is a sad day indeed

not that I can really comment as I've never bothered to listen to Big Generator
"I'm Running" is not the only good track on the album imo, it's just the best one so I used it as an example.
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Originally posted by Triceratopsoil Triceratopsoil wrote:

Ocean is kind of a turd compared to Eloy's previous 5 albums.  But some people are into turds, so that's ok.


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^ Indeed, Ocean is a high-point in the world of Eloy (and they had many peaks with very few troughs).
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Originally posted by Triceratopsoil Triceratopsoil wrote:

Ocean is kind of a turd compared to Eloy's previous 5 albums.  But some people are into turds, so that's ok.


Outlandish. Ocean is a classic.
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