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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote HolyMoly Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 11 2014 at 17:10
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote proggman Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 11 2014 at 23:05
It's happened a lot of things here since I posted the last time. I suggest that somebody makes a religious arguing thread.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Atavachron Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 11 2014 at 23:09
 LOL   Oh we have at least one of those
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote proggman Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 11 2014 at 23:26
I know, but let's make another one called religious reviews discussion or my God is better than your God thread. Wink


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote proggman Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 12 2014 at 00:56
God took the Promised Land and put it in my bloodstained hand. Evil Smile
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Dayvenkirq Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 12 2014 at 02:02
Any other reviews to discuss?
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Fun while it lasted, in a horrible masochistic sort of way
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Polymorphia Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 12 2014 at 10:27
Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

Fun while it lasted, in a horrible masochistic sort of way
More pages than the "Chick from Texas" welcome thread. I must conclude that participants found this convo more attractive than the opposite sex, which, even for a homosexual, would be very surprising. Wink
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Originally posted by aapatsos aapatsos wrote:

An interesting review, on the brink of becoming abusive, but I can see why the reviewer can be upset. Is he manipulating the rating, or just providing an honest view? Maybe the latter... but worth discussing

Humph! Angry

All that review did is to make me avoid further reviews from a so-called reviewer who obviously has no idea what they are talking about. That gains no respect from anyone as it does not even justify the one star review, and thats lazy reviewing by any standard. 

It is a stunning album and deserves full recommendation for its original approach and innovation.  
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote AtomicCrimsonRush Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 13 2014 at 16:11
Originally posted by octopus-4 octopus-4 wrote:

Originally posted by pjt pjt wrote:

Originally posted by octopus-4 octopus-4 wrote:

Originally posted by pjt pjt wrote:


Well, I totally don't know what he thinks about the music, because he rants about the lyrics, and only because he looks down on religious people.


You may have missed this passage:

Track Five - (Kaleidoscope) - The longest and second best track on this CD! - I like this track, despite it being sort of whirlwind-lite and it has several riffs that are very like those found in Snow by Spock's Beard... This starts well and has a lovely keyboard solo as well, and some nice guitar work, the reprise and fade out at the end spoil it somewhat but I'd give it four stars


I did not. But as being the exception to the rule, it counts that much less. It would have mattered if the reviews of the other four tracks were in fact about the music and the lyrics, and not the person who wrote it.
And what about this:

Track one - (Into the Blue) the opening epic. This has good bits, and a reasonably lengthy Stolt solo, but for me the patchy good bits do not mask a going-through-the-motions exercise. 

Track Two - (Shine) H'm, lyrically awful and bland, not saved by a very powerful Stolt solo

Track Three - (Black as the Sky) - Now here is a saving track! Forget the lyrical content, ........ the music is good (some of it lifted from Spock's Beard Snow), but this is a good track musically powerful with nice keyboards, worth having in your collection

It still looks as a proper review to me. He has probably underlined the lyrics too much, the concept was clear after few lines, but he tells something about the music. Am I wrong?


Granted that review points out many aspects of the music and why it deserves a listen. But if he laid off the opportunity to attack Christians' beliefs in his review that would be more respectful. As soon as i read the line sl*g.ing off Christians I lost all respect and stopped reading. If this is where reviewing is going it is a poor state of affairs. it is about time reviewers stuck to their game and actually reviewed the albums without such blatant bias towards a belief system. In doing so they do not harm the artist or album rather lose respect by many who may hold dear to the very beliefs they set out to attack. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote AtomicCrimsonRush Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 13 2014 at 16:19
Originally posted by Aussie-Byrd-Brother Aussie-Byrd-Brother wrote:

Originally posted by progbethyname progbethyname wrote:

Originally posted by Second Life Syndrome Second Life Syndrome wrote:


Originally posted by M27Barney M27Barney wrote:

The problem we have in this the 14th year of the 3rd millennium AD (see we can't even have a date without it being arbitrarily linked to the unverifiable date of some fictional character!), is that religious belief is put on some kind of special pedestal! I was called anti-Semitic for stating that no parents had the right to hack off the foreskin of an infant without a good medical reason for doing so! If somebody want's to be circumcised because of religious compulsion then they can wait till they are 18 and then choose to have it done like tattoos and body piercings! See how religion is allowed to perpetrate child abuse and nobody bats an eyelid? And it is a fact that no-body in the UK has been prosecuted for the barbaric female circumcision although there have been thousands of girls mutilated in this terrible way! No-body who is of right-mind would condone such abuse of children in the world today!!

Now his ignorance of history is showing.  Double loss of credibility.  Wink


Oh wow. This thread is interesting. Where have you been all my life!

The real question is, have you turned your life over to the Lord and seen the error of your sinful ways, Nick?

Well, enjoy it while it lasts, there's already calls for



Look at that load of garbage M27Barney is spouting off! " See how religion is allowed to perpetrate child abuse and nobody bats an eyelid?" - Now I have met some deranged souls in  my time but this takes the biscuit! Wacko
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Originally posted by AtomicCrimsonRush AtomicCrimsonRush wrote:

Originally posted by aapatsos aapatsos wrote:

An interesting review, on the brink of becoming abusive, but I can see why the reviewer can be upset. Is he manipulating the rating, or just providing an honest view? Maybe the latter... but worth discussing

Humph! Angry

All that review did is to make me avoid further reviews from a so-called reviewer who obviously has no idea what they are talking about. That gains no respect from anyone as it does not even justify the one star review, and thats lazy reviewing by any standard. 

It is a stunning album and deserves full recommendation for its original approach and innovation.  


Ah, but that's maybe a matter of "taste"... I think he does justify it but maybe not with a polite manner.
E.g. the music sounds simplistic (to a degree, at least to me) and the storyline could seem banal to someone, granted.

But "crap", "ugh", "shut up"... are a bit too harsh, but nevertheless I did find reading this entertaining....
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Logan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 13 2014 at 16:49
I'd often rather read one tasteless, but entertaining amateur review than a tasteful, yet bland, descriptive amateur review, but that really is a matter of taste (odd in a way how being tasteful is often bland where being tasteless can be wickedly delicious).  I pray to god hope that we I will be tolerant enough to accept ridicule of our my own belief systems opinions. ;)


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote aapatsos Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 13 2014 at 17:12
 great post LOLClap

Edited by aapatsos - February 13 2014 at 17:12
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote AtomicCrimsonRush Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 13 2014 at 17:17
Yeah Ok, granted the review is entertaining enough to spark strong reactions 

But what about the guidelines here? are they being adhered to?

i seem to remember readng somewhere - 

4 - Write in an intelligent and considerate manner. Rude or insulting language (including blatant vulgarity) will not be tolerated! Show respect for other reviewers, readers, the artists, and the CD and song titles. Do not belittle reviews posted by others, their opinions are as welcome and valid as yours. It is generally best to avoid commenting on other reviews altogether. 

The following are examples of phrases which should NOT appear in reviews: "Reviewer Joe Smith is stupid for saying that...", "Anyone who doesn't like this album is an idiot", "The band which made this album is rubbish", etc.,

Anyhow I think he should at least remove the harshness of the review as its not the reviewers privilege or position to attack just for the sake of attacking an artist and even attempting to bring the high star rating down. 
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Hmmm... Not much more needs to be said from a reviewer who awards a universally regarded masterpiece 1 star! 1 stars PINK FLOYD Dark Side Of The Moon | review 

Entertaining review isn't it?
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Originally posted by AtomicCrimsonRush AtomicCrimsonRush wrote:

Hmmm... Not much more needs to be said from a reviewer who awards a universally regarded masterpiece 1 star! 1 stars PINK FLOYD Dark Side Of The Moon | review 

Entertaining review isn't it?
Crying wolf 4½ years the discovery of an eviscerated lamb smacks of a botched character assassination to me. Quick - bolt the barn door, I see the horse disappearing over the field. LOL
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Originally posted by AtomicCrimsonRush AtomicCrimsonRush wrote:

Hmmm... Not much more needs to be said from a reviewer who awards a universally regarded masterpiece 1 star! 1 stars PINK FLOYD Dark Side Of The Moon | review 

Entertaining review isn't it?
Honestly I only liked one of the tracks he listed as "classic." LOL

While I totally disagree with his review (DSOTM is one of my favs) and his seemingly symph=good mentality, I don't really have much of a problem with the fact that he gave an album a lot of people love one star. Of course, his delivery is, well, as Barney as ever.


Edited by Polymorphia - February 13 2014 at 17:58
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