Flower Kings Appreciation Thread

Catcher10 wrote: Since this is TFK appreciation thread.........I was spinning this last night   This album is slooooowly growing on me....and I think it is because of all the religious tones that inhabit this album, especially the bonus side. I really do not care, but I guess because I know Neal Morse's position it does not affect me as much as if I am not sure of one's position......I believe Roine and the boys are not just doing the religious tones just for sh*tts and giggles, its there because it means something to them. IDK, you guys know more about TFK than I do I am sure, but I like all their music pretty much....The last couple albums especially, which to me have a lot of religious tones, which give it that feel good atmoshpere, I would not have a problem with my 10yr old reading the lyric sheets......Even though music is art, I would have a problem with my 10yr old reading the lyric sheets to say Slayer's music. But that is just me....I like The Flower Kings, Neal Morse and Transatlantic.

That looks lovely!  While Roine has always sprinkled in religious references (not all of them Christian, mind you), I really haven't noticed any increase in that on the last two albums, particularly DR.  I suppose Banks leaned a lot more Christian than previous albums but I'm not getting that from DR.  Maybe it's just me.

As to Morse, I think he's held back admirably on the last two TA albums, though as Barney says it's pretty obvious what the lyrics focus on, for the most part.  I think Stolt has always been a spiritual person, though not necessarily subscribing to any particular religion.  Maybe that has changed in the past few years, I don't know.

For me, it doesn't really make any difference.  If I like the music, and the lyrics aren't completely terrible, I'm good with it (heck I even like The Count Of Tuscany, even though it has what I consider to be the worst lyrics of any prog song I've ever heard).  The most recent Ayreon album is problematic for me because I think the lyrics are just ridiculous.  They are all about coming up with a Unified Theory for astro physics (or something like that I guess), so no religious lyrics to speak of really.......but it's all just so ridiculously literal.  Which might be okay if it was like reading a good novel or something, but it's just not.  I like the music, but those lyrics make it hard for me to take seriously.  I sometimes have that problem with Neal Morse, and even Roine (though with Roine, it's usually just certain phrases or lines, not whole songs).

infandous wrote: Catcher10 wrote: Since this is TFK appreciation thread.........I was spinning this last night   This album is slooooowly growing on me....and I think it is because of all the religious tones that inhabit this album, especially the bonus side. I really do not care, but I guess because I know Neal Morse's position it does not affect me as much as if I am not sure of one's position......I believe Roine and the boys are not just doing the religious tones just for sh*tts and giggles, its there because it means something to them. IDK, you guys know more about TFK than I do I am sure, but I like all their music pretty much....The last couple albums especially, which to me have a lot of religious tones, which give it that feel good atmoshpere, I would not have a problem with my 10yr old reading the lyric sheets......Even though music is art, I would have a problem with my 10yr old reading the lyric sheets to say Slayer's music. But that is just me....I like The Flower Kings, Neal Morse and Transatlantic. That looks lovely!  While Roine has always sprinkled in religious references (not all of them Christian, mind you), I really haven't noticed any increase in that on the last two albums, particularly DR.  I suppose Banks leaned a lot more Christian than previous albums but I'm not getting that from DR.  Maybe it's just me. As to Morse, I think he's held back admirably on the last two TA albums, though as Barney says it's pretty obvious what the lyrics focus on, for the most part.  I think Stolt has always been a spiritual person, though not necessarily subscribing to any particular religion.  Maybe that has changed in the past few years, I don't know. For me, it doesn't really make any difference.  If I like the music, and the lyrics aren't completely terrible, I'm good with it (heck I even like The Count Of Tuscany, even though it has what I consider to be the worst lyrics of any prog song I've ever heard).  The most recent Ayreon album is problematic for me because I think the lyrics are just ridiculous.  They are all about coming up with a Unified Theory for astro physics (or something like that I guess), so no religious lyrics to speak of really.......but it's all just so ridiculously literal.  Which might be okay if it was like reading a good novel or something, but it's just not.  I like the music, but those lyrics make it hard for me to take seriously.  I sometimes have that problem with Neal Morse, and even Roine (though with Roine, it's usually just certain phrases or lines, not whole songs).

geekfreak wrote: I`ll always be surprized by none. progressive rock music listening people. whom always say the negative. view points. as you may have figured. some workmate as been saying the same old crap. I`ve be trying to help him with playing genesis, flower kings and more. but NO. he still    well what to do with him now. I`m can you think of ?.

Suggest more accessible stuff to him? (I'm assuming he's a fan of classic rock. If he isn't, ignore the rest of this post.) I'd say stuff like King Crimson--Fallen Angel, ELP--Lucky Man, Van Der Graaf Generator--House With No Door, Rush--A Farewell to Kings, Jethro Tull--Songs from the Wood. 

Edited by HemispheresOfXanadu - February 12 2014 at 10:31

I'll tell you what - You may just get this thread fookin locked putting such filth on it - Music sung by boy bands has ONLY one purpose! That is to facilitate an increase in the sales of knickers (panties to those across the pond) to replace those either thrown at the boy bands, or those that need to be replaced due to rotting gussets due to the creaming effect of said bands.....

zumacraig wrote: @infandous, good point about the new ayreon.  good music, but those lyrics are so damn goofy. incidentally, i've been listening to SoNE.  One More Time is definitely one of my favorite TFK tracks.  Just love the arrangement...how they reprise the intro.  I wish they did that on Driver's Seat.  That intro is awesome!

Yeah, agree about Driver's Seat.  I always felt that song seemed unfinished.  One More Time is a great track, though it's hard for me to pick a favorite on TSoNE.

Should have the new TA today or tomorrow, so I imagine I'll be putting my initial thoughts here.  As it is, I did what I usually never do, listened to a couple tracks before getting the album.  Shine is the most horrible thing I've ever heard from any of those guys, and Black As The Sky is a very good tune.  Hopefully, the album is more like the latter than the former for me.........

infandous wrote: zumacraig wrote: @infandous, good point about the new ayreon.  good music, but those lyrics are so damn goofy. incidentally, i've been listening to SoNE.  One More Time is definitely one of my favorite TFK tracks.  Just love the arrangement...how they reprise the intro.  I wish they did that on Driver's Seat.  That intro is awesome! Yeah, agree about Driver's Seat.  I always felt that song seemed unfinished.  One More Time is a great track, though it's hard for me to pick a favorite on TSoNE.Should have the new TA today or tomorrow, so I imagine I'll be putting my initial thoughts here.  As it is, I did what I usually never do, listened to a couple tracks before getting the album.  Shine is the most horrible thing I've ever heard from any of those guys, and Black As The Sky is a very good tune.  Hopefully, the album is more like the latter than the former for me.........

The longer epic has potential, but the two ballads are awful and SKIP> tracks if ever there was such a thing!!!

Ok, so I'm incredibly excited about something I found in my mailbox last night.  I got home and found an envelope stamped 'Royal Mail' and customs and all of that.  I assumed that it was the Placebo (not-prog) CD that I had ordered a few weeks ago from a used CD shop in Britain.  I opened the envelope and looked inside and saw a wash of blue and orange with some scribbling on the front of it.  For about a half second I wrote if off  . . . then I realized what it was:

M27Barney wrote: Arena, there is another band whom I have never really listened to, I think I have several CD's to, I'll have to investigate!

Hm, I don't remember buying them or even giving them a spin ???

M27Barney wrote: The U.S.A is a strange place, in some states you get liberal views on homosexuality and thriving adult movie industry. In others they don't even let children learn about evolution and kissing your wife in public could lead to a jail sentence. What is the common denominator between these states and similarly oppressive states in the middle east?

Allow me to announce my return by answering my good friend Barney's question:

Most of us here in the USA are like Infandous, myself & Zuma. Young handsome lads that wish no harm on anybody.

The problem people you referred to are descendents from that retard John Smith and those clowns from your country who came here on the Mayflower.  As I recall my history: "puritanism" and whitch burning were clever little tricks that you English Imperialists brought to our pristine shores here in America.