Flower Kings Appreciation Thread

geekfreak wrote: I`ll always be surprized by none. progressive rock music listening people. whom always say the negative. view points. as you may have figured. some workmate as been saying the same old crap. I`ve be trying to help him with playing genesis, flower kings and more. but NO. he still    well what to do with him now. I`m can you think of ?.

Suggest more accessible stuff to him? (I'm assuming he's a fan of classic rock. If he isn't, ignore the rest of this post.) I'd say stuff like King Crimson--Fallen Angel, ELP--Lucky Man, Van Der Graaf Generator--House With No Door, Rush--A Farewell to Kings, Jethro Tull--Songs from the Wood. 

Edited by HemispheresOfXanadu - February 12 2014 at 10:31

infandous wrote: Catcher10 wrote: Since this is TFK appreciation thread.........I was spinning this last night   This album is slooooowly growing on me....and I think it is because of all the religious tones that inhabit this album, especially the bonus side. I really do not care, but I guess because I know Neal Morse's position it does not affect me as much as if I am not sure of one's position......I believe Roine and the boys are not just doing the religious tones just for sh*tts and giggles, its there because it means something to them. IDK, you guys know more about TFK than I do I am sure, but I like all their music pretty much....The last couple albums especially, which to me have a lot of religious tones, which give it that feel good atmoshpere, I would not have a problem with my 10yr old reading the lyric sheets......Even though music is art, I would have a problem with my 10yr old reading the lyric sheets to say Slayer's music. But that is just me....I like The Flower Kings, Neal Morse and Transatlantic. That looks lovely!  While Roine has always sprinkled in religious references (not all of them Christian, mind you), I really haven't noticed any increase in that on the last two albums, particularly DR.  I suppose Banks leaned a lot more Christian than previous albums but I'm not getting that from DR.  Maybe it's just me. As to Morse, I think he's held back admirably on the last two TA albums, though as Barney says it's pretty obvious what the lyrics focus on, for the most part.  I think Stolt has always been a spiritual person, though not necessarily subscribing to any particular religion.  Maybe that has changed in the past few years, I don't know. For me, it doesn't really make any difference.  If I like the music, and the lyrics aren't completely terrible, I'm good with it (heck I even like The Count Of Tuscany, even though it has what I consider to be the worst lyrics of any prog song I've ever heard).  The most recent Ayreon album is problematic for me because I think the lyrics are just ridiculous.  They are all about coming up with a Unified Theory for astro physics (or something like that I guess), so no religious lyrics to speak of really.......but it's all just so ridiculously literal.  Which might be okay if it was like reading a good novel or something, but it's just not.  I like the music, but those lyrics make it hard for me to take seriously.  I sometimes have that problem with Neal Morse, and even Roine (though with Roine, it's usually just certain phrases or lines, not whole songs).

Catcher10 wrote: Since this is TFK appreciation thread.........I was spinning this last night   This album is slooooowly growing on me....and I think it is because of all the religious tones that inhabit this album, especially the bonus side. I really do not care, but I guess because I know Neal Morse's position it does not affect me as much as if I am not sure of one's position......I believe Roine and the boys are not just doing the religious tones just for sh*tts and giggles, its there because it means something to them. IDK, you guys know more about TFK than I do I am sure, but I like all their music pretty much....The last couple albums especially, which to me have a lot of religious tones, which give it that feel good atmoshpere, I would not have a problem with my 10yr old reading the lyric sheets......Even though music is art, I would have a problem with my 10yr old reading the lyric sheets to say Slayer's music. But that is just me....I like The Flower Kings, Neal Morse and Transatlantic.

That looks lovely!  While Roine has always sprinkled in religious references (not all of them Christian, mind you), I really haven't noticed any increase in that on the last two albums, particularly DR.  I suppose Banks leaned a lot more Christian than previous albums but I'm not getting that from DR.  Maybe it's just me.

As to Morse, I think he's held back admirably on the last two TA albums, though as Barney says it's pretty obvious what the lyrics focus on, for the most part.  I think Stolt has always been a spiritual person, though not necessarily subscribing to any particular religion.  Maybe that has changed in the past few years, I don't know.

For me, it doesn't really make any difference.  If I like the music, and the lyrics aren't completely terrible, I'm good with it (heck I even like The Count Of Tuscany, even though it has what I consider to be the worst lyrics of any prog song I've ever heard).  The most recent Ayreon album is problematic for me because I think the lyrics are just ridiculous.  They are all about coming up with a Unified Theory for astro physics (or something like that I guess), so no religious lyrics to speak of really.......but it's all just so ridiculously literal.  Which might be okay if it was like reading a good novel or something, but it's just not.  I like the music, but those lyrics make it hard for me to take seriously.  I sometimes have that problem with Neal Morse, and even Roine (though with Roine, it's usually just certain phrases or lines, not whole songs).

M27Barney wrote: Nice turntable ! Can't be arsed getting my turntable out to play any vinyl! I have Thegonia - by Rotting Christ, good album - If you are listening to music because the lyrics are safe for a ten year old............. Whatever you do, don't let em read any George RR Martin...

Edited by Catcher10 - February 10 2014 at 15:42

Since this is TFK appreciation thread.........I was spinning this last night

Edited by Catcher10 - February 10 2014 at 14:45

For what it's worth Barney, I quite enjoyed your review.  Of course, I always find your religious comments quite funny, even though I am not myself an atheist (though I don't subscribe to any organized religion).

Got your back man:

not space revolver.

oh no I`m going to really be trying to live forever.

Anyway, who would want to live forever? I am quite looking forward to the peace of death - No more taxes and a mither free rest until the heat death of the universe......