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verslibre 
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Posted: February 09 2014 at 18:22 |
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Goblin.
Yeah, they recorded that one album called Volo, but that's Goblin-in-name-only.
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Posted: February 09 2014 at 09:01 |
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Crimson seems the obvious answer to me. A core band to the genre, always experimenting and evolving. The depth of the discography and the continued relevance makes them more significant than others.
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Posted: February 08 2014 at 23:25 |
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Wouldn't say crimson because their compositions don't really demand to be listened many times apart from the early 70s and early 80s eg 70-71 and 82-83. Experimental but not one of the truly strong prog bands IMO. Gentle giant would be the ultimate prog band producing strong catchy smart compositions for most of the decade. Tull are my fave band though because they knew when to tone complexity and experimenting down and to mix it up with some mild heavy rock. Great compositions will always win. Trying to be busy all the time is an overdose. Trying to be experimental all the time means you aren't a very good composer
Edited by dr prog - February 08 2014 at 23:32
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All I like is prog related bands beginning late 60's/early 70's. Their music from 1968 - 83 has the composition and sound which will never be beaten. Perfect blend of jazz, classical, folk and rock.
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Posted: February 08 2014 at 20:12 |
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Erm, I feel a bit embarrassed to appear as if I am taking up cudgels for Flower Kings, but I cannot think of a single band that was ALWAYS experimenting and trying COMPLETELY new ideas. Not even KC or Zappa would pass that test. If that's the premise of the thread, then it's overambitious and unrealistic. Every band or artist goes through periods of (relative) coasting along or settling down in terms of style. Poseidon is by no means a radical departure from ITCOTCK nor is SABB from LTIA. As for the "band/artist that keeps true to the GENRE of prog rock" (quoting from the OP, only capitalising the word genre), TFK does qualify.
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Posted: February 08 2014 at 17:55 |
 Slartibartfast wrote:
Show me a band truest to the genre and I'll show you a band that hasn't put out a lot of albums... |
Truer words were never spoken.
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Posted: February 08 2014 at 17:53 |
Triceratopsoil wrote:
ghost_of_morphy wrote:
Slartibartfast wrote:
Show me a band truest to the genre and I'll show you a band that hasn't put out a lot of albums...
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The Flower Kings are continually knocked for being derivative of the best prog bands. I think that qualifies them for being truest to the genre and also disproves your statement. |
I think you miss the point of the thread. The assertion being made is that a band has to push the boundaries and release new, original, interesting material to be true to the idea of progressive rock... not live 1973 pipe dreams.
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 Which is what I meant to say in my earlier rambling post
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Posted: February 08 2014 at 14:18 |
ghost_of_morphy wrote:
Slartibartfast wrote:
Show me a band truest to the genre and I'll show you a band that hasn't put out a lot of albums...
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The Flower Kings are continually knocked for being derivative of the best prog bands. I think that qualifies them for being truest to the genre and also disproves your statement. |
I think you miss the point of the thread. The assertion being made is that a band has to push the boundaries and release new, original, interesting material to be true to the idea of progressive rock... not live 1973 pipe dreams.
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Posted: February 08 2014 at 02:40 |
richardh wrote:
Mike Oldfield has an extremely varied body of work that cuts across different sub genres. Once he perfects one style he moves on and does something different.Vangelis is also worth a mention. Beauborg , Earth ,Heaven and Hell , Hypothesis , L'Apocalypse Des Animaux and The Dragon are all completely different. Over the years he has settled down and pushed out more albums that conform to a style of music that he is famous for admittedly but you still get the odd surprise like Mythodea. |
yeah but this genre tagging is for the listener to compartmentalize, for me Vangelis should never be in prog related but in prog electronic. Most artists get uncomfortable being pigeon holed into a genre.
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Posted: February 08 2014 at 02:37 |
ghost_of_morphy wrote:
Slartibartfast wrote:
Show me a band truest to the genre and I'll show you a band that hasn't put out a lot of albums...
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The Flower Kings are continually knocked for being derivative of the best prog bands. I think that qualifies them for being truest to the genre and also disproves your statement. |
Can a copy be considered closer to the original than an
original that has progressed beyond their starting point from the early
70's? (King Crimson and to a lesser extent, VDGG are the only originals I
can think of who have managed this without recourse to dumbing down their music)BTW
I'm not having a go at the Flower Kings, but for me they're retroprogressives, albeit very
talented and skilful ones like Transatlantic, Wobbler and
Black Bonzo etc
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Posted: February 08 2014 at 01:25 |
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As said, I thought about "The Flower Kings", even though I haven't heard much from them. I would also think about Dream Theater and Transatlantic. |
Yeah, mostly the 'new' (as in 90s onwards) bands actually. I guess it was harder for older bands to survive long enough to release a dozen or more albums and remain prog. Also, the music was evolving much more rapidly in the 70s whereas by the 90s, prog's boundaries were kind of defined. Of the well known older bands, maybe KC stuck to prog all the way. Haven't heard some of the mid 70s work of VDGG so not sure if they qualify. Rush and Camel went borderline at times but probably not out and out pop at any stage unlike Yes/Genesis/GG. I have heard that Merci is Magma's attempt at pop but haven't heard the album so can't comment.
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Posted: February 07 2014 at 23:20 |
Hi Xonty, great post! 
To me The Beatles considering their era, they were and are to date fundamental and ground-breaking in terms of progressive music. They experimented with several instruments inc. the French horn and the Sitar among many others just to name a few, also to me they were the first to produce a metal track which is Helter Skelter :)
Also they did not take stupid things seriously and made some silly tracks (i.e. I AM A walrus), I love silly tracks 
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Posted: February 07 2014 at 21:37 |
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As said, I thought about "The Flower Kings", even though I haven't heard much from them. I would also think about Dream Theater and Transatlantic.
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