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Did I upset some people - that's good ! The review reflected my thoughts. A man is entitled to his views unless of course they advocate the intent to harm any living thing intentionally! I have no enmity towards Neal Morse, I wish him a peaceful life and to live long and prosper, just hope that (if he is involved) the next TA CD has some other subject matter than the unproven hand of god and the life-destroying notion that we live forever after our deaths !!!
Live life NOW you suckers - and spread laughter and peace upon your fellow denizens of this green and pleasant spinning planet !!!
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It began in the Review Reporting thread, but the majority of the discussion is in the Review Discussion Thread.  http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=28344&PN=163
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Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

Barney, have you seen the Reviews Discussion thread?  Your Transatlantic review has been the subject of some discussion.

link?  i can't seem to find that thread.
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Barney, have you seen the Reviews Discussion thread?  Your Transatlantic review has been the subject of some discussion.
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Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:


I was told once a long time ago that the seeds in the core of the apples were poisonous.  If I recall, they contain arsenic.  Not sure if this is true or just an old wive's tale.  And it is true.  Although the truth is cyanide, not arsenic.  http://www.snopes.com/food/warnings/apples.asp

well I have been eating apples whole since I was about five years old - if I die and the autopsy reveals death by long-term ingested cyanide poisoning - I'll have my family have a plaque made with the slogan - An apple a day - leads to premature death.....unless of course I was 110 when I died.....
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Originally posted by infandous infandous wrote:

Like most fruits with edible skins, the skin is the most nutritious part
of the apple, though I know many people swear by the core parts as
well.

Well I eat the apple skin, pips, and core, and yes the pips do contain cyanide, but you would have to eat about two kilo's of pips in one sitting to get enough cyanide to do you any harm! and that's a lot of apples! (I only have one a day usually).
I read on the internet - some doctor was actually testing his thesis that the human body was using the cyanide ingested to kill cancer cells! - Seems a little far-fetched to me. The real reason I eat the whole apple is that I hate throwing any fresh food away!!! - And since I paid for the apple - I am going to get my monies worth !!!
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I was told once a long time ago that the seeds in the core of the apples were poisonous.  If I recall, they contain arsenic.  Not sure if this is true or just an old wive's tale.  And it is true.  Although the truth is cyanide, not arsenic.  http://www.snopes.com/food/warnings/apples.asp


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Like most fruits with edible skins, the skin is the most nutritious part of the apple, though I know many people swear by the core parts as well.
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Oh and maybe it's just me? My wife says I'm weird because I eat the whole apple, core pips and all - I tell her that a lot of the dietary fibre and vitamins are in the core...so who eats the whole apple ? Maybe morse should contemplate a futile war - with two factions - the whole-apple eaters V the apple core leavers which causes total annihilation of their small planet orbiting a G2V class star in the Andromeda galaxy.....
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I have reviewed Kaleidoscope - I cannot give it more than three stars at the present. The lyrical content is just ludicrous given the mono-themed outlook from Morse. I wish he would just realise that most prog rock fans (especially in Britain) are almost certainly Atheists , or humanists or whatever that have no stupid blind faith in some fictional character, whether that's the Judaic God or James T Kirk....
There must be loads of other people completely cheesed-off with the single themed repetition - Ok we had the whirlwind, now give it a rest and go and sing about sledric the silly sloth, lounging on his branch in the rainforest...ANYTHING !!!
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Originally posted by M27Barney M27Barney wrote:

Originally posted by zumacraig zumacraig wrote:

http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/transatlantic/2014/arcada-theatre-saint-charles-il-5bc537d0.htmlhere's the setlist from the recent TA shows.  i guess i need to listen to the new one again.  it really left me cold.  i listened to Bridge the other day and that album is just classic.  to think roine and neal at that time were in the middle of a genius level of creating with the two TA albums, SB albums and TFK albums in from 95 to early 02.  it's like they were all in the groove, everything they were writing at that time was good.  hell, Duel was a throw away neal gave to Ryo.  it's kind of like the period of Yes album to Drama...everything the band did was good to amazing.


I'm going to spin it again as I was similarly underwhelmed - but maybe I had set myself against it subconsciously, so I will try and listen in a more open way and ignore the lyrics if I can and concentrate on the music! The period of Yes - includes Tormato !!! bloody awful compared to the other stuff !!! I haven't listened to Bridge Across Forever for a while, I've always preferred SMPT....
Yeah, SMPTe is my absolute favorite.  Never really cared for Bridge that much, though the epics do have their moments.  Both seem dragged out to me, especially Duel.  I may have to pull it out again as it's been a few years since I've heard it (other than the tracks played on the Whirld Tour DVD and CD).Still waiting on the new one.........Nice to see My New World back in their set.  That and All Of The Above are the best things they've ever done, IMO.

Well we concur on TA..
No 1 track All of the Above
No 2 My New World
all the rest - take your pick as they all have good parts, but....My listening moods are fluctuating widely at the moment...thus it's hard to select a CD for the moment - Tomorrow I'll listen to the TA again I suppose, but then I have quite a few other CD's that require a 2nd spin...so I may choose the CoE....

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Originally posted by M27Barney M27Barney wrote:

Originally posted by zumacraig zumacraig wrote:

http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/transatlantic/2014/arcada-theatre-saint-charles-il-5bc537d0.htmlhere's the setlist from the recent TA shows.  i guess i need to listen to the new one again.  it really left me cold.  i listened to Bridge the other day and that album is just classic.  to think roine and neal at that time were in the middle of a genius level of creating with the two TA albums, SB albums and TFK albums in from 95 to early 02.  it's like they were all in the groove, everything they were writing at that time was good.  hell, Duel was a throw away neal gave to Ryo.  it's kind of like the period of Yes album to Drama...everything the band did was good to amazing.


I'm going to spin it again as I was similarly underwhelmed - but maybe I had set myself against it subconsciously, so I will try and listen in a more open way and ignore the lyrics if I can and concentrate on the music! The period of Yes - includes Tormato !!! bloody awful compared to the other stuff !!! I haven't listened to Bridge Across Forever for a while, I've always preferred SMPT....



Yeah, SMPTe is my absolute favorite.  Never really cared for Bridge that much, though the epics do have their moments.  Both seem dragged out to me, especially Duel.  I may have to pull it out again as it's been a few years since I've heard it (other than the tracks played on the Whirld Tour DVD and CD).

Still waiting on the new one.........

Nice to see My New World back in their set.  That and All Of The Above are the best things they've ever done, IMO.


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Originally posted by zumacraig zumacraig wrote:

http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/transatlantic/2014/arcada-theatre-saint-charles-il-5bc537d0.htmlhere's the setlist from the recent TA shows.  i guess i need to listen to the new one again.  it really left me cold.  i listened to Bridge the other day and that album is just classic.  to think roine and neal at that time were in the middle of a genius level of creating with the two TA albums, SB albums and TFK albums in from 95 to early 02.  it's like they were all in the groove, everything they were writing at that time was good.  hell, Duel was a throw away neal gave to Ryo.  it's kind of like the period of Yes album to Drama...everything the band did was good to amazing.


I'm going to spin it again as I was similarly underwhelmed - but maybe I had set myself against it subconsciously, so I will try and listen in a more open way and ignore the lyrics if I can and concentrate on the music! The period of Yes - includes Tormato !!! bloody awful compared to the other stuff !!! I haven't listened to Bridge Across Forever for a while, I've always preferred SMPT....
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http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/transatlantic/2014/arcada-theatre-saint-charles-il-5bc537d0.html

here's the setlist from the recent TA shows.  i guess i need to listen to the new one again.  it really left me cold.  i listened to Bridge the other day and that album is just classic.  to think roine and neal at that time were in the middle of a genius level of creating with the two TA albums, SB albums and TFK albums in from 95 to early 02.  it's like they were all in the groove, everything they were writing at that time was good.  hell, Duel was a throw away neal gave to Ryo.  it's kind of like the period of Yes album to Drama...everything the band did was good to amazing.
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Originally posted by M27Barney M27Barney wrote:

Good job that Zappa, Frank is nearly last then coz it will take you about six months to hear his output - it's prodigious !!!
It is interesting that you say that because I mainly started out just listening to the CDs that I own, but fairly recently I have taken to Spotify to fill in the gaps wherever possible so as to try and listen to complete discographies.  I don't think that that is going to happen with Zappa, Frank but I'll see how daunting that bridge is when I get there.  I have less than a dozen of his albums and can't say that I have really been enamored with them, although there is certainly some good stuff scattered within here and there.  I wonder if his stuff is even on Spotify? 
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Good job that Zappa, Frank is nearly last then coz it will take you about six months to hear his output - it's prodigious !!!

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Originally posted by M27Barney M27Barney wrote:

Hm, was that alphabetically on album title or Band, then album title? I have my collection alphabetic on artist but then the CD's are in chronological order, thus Genesis, From Genesis to revelation, then Trespass, Nursery Cryme, Foxtrot.......
Alphabetical by artist and chronological within the artist.
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Originally posted by darkshade darkshade wrote:

I don't remember anything about the title track. In fact, I zoned out a few times when I listened to it. Obviously, I need to listen to Kaleidoscope again.


I lost interest too in times during the first track - I always hope that the epics are the best because if they aren't then a considerable amount of the music you've just purchased is duff !!!
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Hm, was that alphabetically on album title or Band, then album title? I have my collection alphabetic on artist but then the CD's are in chronological order, thus Genesis, From Genesis to revelation, then Trespass, Nursery Cryme, Foxtrot.......
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