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Wizard/TRueStar View Drop Down

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Posted: December 09 2004 at 19:52

I like how they put Yngwie Malmsteen on the list

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Posted: December 09 2004 at 20:50

Dream Theater Neo Prog? (Look at the right side)

STYX before Anglagard, Rick Wakeman, PFM. The Strawbs, etc?

Genesis N° 3??? Should be N°1 at least the Gabriel era.

ASIA N° 21????? Should be at leat 210

TOTO Prog? I would say cheap POP instead.

California Guitar Trio is an excelent band but not remotely prog.

ELO N°12? Not really prog and one of the top in the list.

Happy The Man Psychedelic??? (Again at the right)

Holy God, this guys are clueless!!!!!!!!

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Posted: December 09 2004 at 21:32

How about Jeff Beck or David Bowie, for his Berlin releases, they probably should be of course he is missing Bebop Deluxe, Roxy Music, and Supertramp...what about Beggars Opera just to name a few.

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Posted: December 09 2004 at 21:46

Ivan Melgar's post there wrap's it all up...Ridiculous site !

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Posted: December 10 2004 at 05:47

benny bouncer wrote:

erm GENESIS NUMBER 3......these guys have to listen to them before they place them that high!

They are rubbish. Nice to know another prog fan that dislikes them too.

I was beginning to feel like I was the only one...I notice the prog collaborators on this site have a hefty chunk of Genesis in their current top twenty.

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Posted: December 10 2004 at 06:31

Err - Where is Greenslade ? and KC No 1.....

I find it hard to serialise a list - better grading.

Genesis/Yes/Floyd/Camel/ELP/IQ/Greenslade are all grade 1.

Pendragon/Pallas/Twelfth Night grade 2 etc.....

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Posted: December 10 2004 at 06:52

Even though I can't stand King Crimson I will still rate them as the best prog band ever. There are such things as objective criteria even in music and to be absolutely objective,KC has pushed the bounderies further back and been on the whole more creative and imaginative than any other prog band so I would definitely cite them as the best prog band ever. Personal opinions and subjective notions don't come into it. If so,then IQ (or possibly Genesis) would be at the top of my list but to suggest that either of them have been more creative,original and groundbreaking than KC is laughable. If asked for my personal favourites,seen from a completely subjective viewpoint,IQ would be at the top of my list. If asked what is the most significant prog band ever from a completely objective,musical historical viewpoint,it would be King Crimson,without a doubt. The fact that I would rather listen to a pig giving birth than any of their albums doesn't enter into it.

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Posted: December 10 2004 at 07:38

1. ProjeKt Four

2. 21st Century Schizoid Band

3. California Guitar Trio

4. Europa String Choir

5. Gitbox

6. ProjeKt Three

7. League Of Crafty Guitarists

8. ProjeKt Two

9. Robert Fripp String Quintet

10. League of Gentlemen

11. Iona

12. ProjeKt One

13. Earthworks

14. Los Gauchos Alemanes

15. The Bears

16. ProjeKt X

17. UK

18. Giles, Giles & Fripp

19. The Hellboys

20. King Crimson

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Posted: December 10 2004 at 07:40

Pixel Pirate wrote:

Even though I can't stand King Crimson I will still rate them as the best prog band ever. There are such things as objective criteria even in music and to be absolutely objective,KC has pushed the bounderies further back and been on the whole more creative and imaginative than any other prog band so I would definitely cite them as the best prog band ever. Personal opinions and subjective notions don't come into it. If so,then IQ (or possibly Genesis) would be at the top of my list but to suggest that either of them have been more creative,original and groundbreaking than KC is laughable. If asked for my personal favourites,seen from a completely subjective viewpoint,IQ would be at the top of my list. If asked what is the most significant prog band ever from a completely objective,musical historical viewpoint,it would be King Crimson,without a doubt. The fact that I would rather listen to a pig giving birth than any of their albums doesn't enter into it.

Do you know, I think that is the most wonderful thing you've ever said.

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Posted: December 10 2004 at 07:50

sigod wrote:

1. ProjeKt Four

2. 21st Century Schizoid Band

3. California Guitar Trio

4. Europa String Choir

5. Gitbox

6. ProjeKt Three

7. League Of Crafty Guitarists

8. ProjeKt Two

9. Robert Fripp String Quintet

10. League of Gentlemen

11. Iona

12. ProjeKt One

13. Earthworks

14. Los Gauchos Alemanes

15. The Bears

16. ProjeKt X

17. UK

18. Giles, Giles & Fripp

19. The Hellboys

20. King Crimson

No BPM & M?????????????????????????????

sigod

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Posted: December 10 2004 at 08:02

Dick Heath wrote:

[QUOTE=sigod]

No BPM & M?????????????????????????????

Nah, they smell funny

I must remind the right honourable gentleman that a monologue is not a decision.
- Clement Atlee, on Winston Churchill

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Posted: December 10 2004 at 13:02

Wrath_of_Ninian wrote about Genesis:

They are rubbish. Nice to know another prog fan that dislikes them too.

I can understand you don't like Genesis, it's a matter of personal taste, I don't like King Crimson very much or Mahavishnu Orchestra for example, but from there to call one of the most influencial bands in Progressive Rock history rubbish, is offensive.

Genesis duiring the Gabriel and/or Hackett era created one of the most unique an imaginative atmospheric sounds, Steve Hackett is probably the most talented guitar player in Prog' and Peter Gabriel is one of the top vocalists, not to mention Tony Banks, who's style is the base for a whole sub genre of Progressive Rock like Neo Prog.

When I give hard opinions about any band (including STYX or Boston ) I try to give a reason why, saying they are rubbish without explaining why, has no senses. This is a discussion forum and in order to have an intelligent discussion we should give reasons.

It's ok if you say you dislike them and you give valid reasons, but I believe they and their fans deserve some respect.

Iván

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Posted: December 10 2004 at 14:05

You're right of course Ivan, there is a fundamental difference between stating your dislike for a band, and dismissing them as "rubbish"!

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Posted: December 10 2004 at 16:24

sigod wrote:

Do you know, I think that is the most wonderful thing you've ever said.

Oh,shucks. You're making me blush now!

Odi profanum vulgus et arceo.

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Posted: December 10 2004 at 17:20

Certif1ed wrote:

Electric Light Orchestra???

The Beatles????

Queensryche ABOVE Gong, Hawkwind, BJH, PFM, Amon Duul, Aphrodite's Child...

Toto?

Yngwie Malmsteen?

Hatfield and the North at 147?????

Since when where the Moodies a "psychedelic progressive band"? Kraftwerk Krautrock? Dream Theater neo-prog?

That list was put together by retards, surely...

I stuck some comments up there - I'll prolly regret them tomorrow, as I'm a significant way down this bottle of Highland Park...

I Agree

richardh

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Posted: December 10 2004 at 17:25

The link doesn't work for me

.Where did ELP finish? (and if not No 1 ...I will need to have words with whoever compiled this list

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Fragile

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Posted: December 10 2004 at 19:31

The answer is quite simple Yes no1 Yes no2 and Yes no3

Gabriel's Genesis second and the magnificent ELP 3rd , Kc 4th ,VDGG a close 5th, do I have to go on.!These are the grand masters of prog and Renaissance a very,very,close 6th.

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Posted: December 10 2004 at 19:44

1. LEONARD NIMOY (Bilbo Baggins)

2. WILLIAM SHATTNER (Lucy in the sky with diamonds)

3. RUSH

Everyone else sucks.

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Posted: December 10 2004 at 21:36

richardh wrote:

The link doesn't work for me

.Where did ELP finish? (and if not No 1 ...I will need to have words with whoever compiled this list

)

4th....behind King Crimson, Yes and Genesis

Knight of the Swords
Lord of Entropy
Duke of Chaos

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Posted: December 10 2004 at 23:12

Yesterday I had a discussion about ELO with a guy there and after a hostile greeting he seemed receptive.

Also recieved a message from Drew (The Adm) and seems to be trying to do something good, but I believe too many hands are there and that's why Styx (For example) ended in place 21 even when in the past 5 lists wasn't even mentioned.

It's interesting to see the opinions of some people there even when there is no place like Prog Archives.

Maybe they have a lot of mistakes but at least they are trying to do a progressive list instead of another mainstream music page, I believe it will get better with some time and experience.

But I'm still angry for the lack of Triumvirat, Le Orme, Par Lindh, etc in that list.

Iván