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Ady Cardiac View Drop Down

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Posted: October 29 2013 at 05:19

cheers Svet........will investigate :-)

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Posted: October 29 2013 at 10:52

Svetonio wrote:

Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

(...) Erik Neuteboom (...)

Is he accepted Via Obscura as Symponic Prog as you did, Ivan?

I don't know, I don't talk with him since he left the site.

But II have respect for his knowledge, even when I don't agree with him that is very often.

In your case, you haven't shown any knowledge to respect or disrespect...You just give names and covers, something a bot can do

Iván

Edited by Ivan_Melgar_M - October 29 2013 at 10:59

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Posted: October 29 2013 at 12:21

Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

Svetonio wrote:

Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

(...) Erik Neuteboom (...)

Is he accepted Via Obscura as Symponic Prog as you did, Ivan?

I don't know, I don't talk with him since he left the site.

But II have respect for his knowledge, even when I don't agree with him that is very often.

In your case, you haven't shown any knowledge to respect or disrespect...You just give names and covers, something a bot can do

Iván

Sorry, I can't do better

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Posted: October 29 2013 at 12:24

People can always do better.

You could try doing less bands and more information.

You could try lots of other things instead - have you tried needle-point or ballroom dancing? I hear that flower-arranging is a relaxing hobby, you could consider that.

What?

Svetonio

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Posted: October 29 2013 at 12:33

Dean wrote:

People can always do better.

You could try doing less bands and more information.

You could try lots of other things instead - have you tried needle-point or ballroom dancing? I hear that flower-arranging is a relaxing hobby, you could consider that.

THANK YOU!!!

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Posted: October 29 2013 at 12:44

Svetonio wrote:

Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

Svetonio wrote:

Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

(...) Erik Neuteboom (...)

Is he accepted Via Obscura as Symponic Prog as you did, Ivan?

I don't know, I don't talk with him since he left the site.

But II have respect for his knowledge, even when I don't agree with him that is very often.

In your case, you haven't shown any knowledge to respect or disrespect...You just give names and covers, something a bot can do

Iván

Sorry, I can't do better

Hire a bot

It can do the same as you, but with more valuable information.

Iván

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Posted: October 29 2013 at 13:20

Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

Svetonio wrote:

Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

Svetonio wrote:

Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

(...) Erik Neuteboom (...)

Is he accepted Via Obscura as Symponic Prog as you did, Ivan?

I don't know, I don't talk with him since he left the site.

But II have respect for his knowledge, even when I don't agree with him that is very often.

In your case, you haven't shown any knowledge to respect or disrespect...You just give names and covers, something a bot can do

Iván

Sorry, I can't do better

Hire a bot

It can do the same as you, but with more valuable information.

Iván

What he said!

I experience a catharsis..

Dean

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Posted: October 29 2013 at 13:28

You really are a Troll aren't you.

What?

octopus-4

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Posted: October 29 2013 at 15:35

DamoXt7942 wrote:

Tough issue indeed.

I know some bands appearing only upon Bandcamp which are tremendously skilled / professional and well deserved for inclusion into PA, and on the contrary, some under formal contract to labels (including independent ones) which are amateur-ish and no-thank-you in PA (as some Admins / Collabs know, Kazuhiro and I strongly were opposed to an inclusion case which had been done without notice a while before).

But hey, we PA have fantastic "Subgenre Evaluation Teams", that can make proper decisions, let me say.

As a result, Teams can add artists suitable for PA "with enough info" or "with enough historical background (even if they're obscure)", and cannot add without them.

This is the answer, I think. If it's prog and fits into the site's rules I personally don't care if it's a bandcamp free download or a LP printed on gold.

One of the last addition in Krautrock, Kanoi, has only free downloadable Bandcamp albums, give it a listen and let me know what you think. On the other hand, even a artists with a famous prog past and LP and CD outputs with major labels like Phil Collins or Annie Haslam are (correctly, IMO) not on the site.

Music matters, media doesn't.

I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution

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Posted: October 29 2013 at 15:48

Dean wrote:

You really are a Troll aren't you.

He's getting free advertising.

¿What else can he ask?

While we are suffering censorship from Google, people get free advertising.

I don't have problem with musicians, they should be supported, but this site is making money with us and leaving nothing.

¿And for what?

1,000 cover albums with no information.

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Posted: October 29 2013 at 15:52

Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

Dean wrote:

You really are a Troll aren't you.

He's getting free advertising.

¿What else can he ask?

While we are suffering censorship from Google, people get free advertising.

I don't have problem with musicians, they should be supported, but this site is making money with us and leaving nothing.

¿And for what?

1,000 cover albums with no information.

How are we suffering censorship? If i type in a band and then the word prog into google this site is up on the top usually.

http://pseudosentai.bandcamp.com/

wtf

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Posted: October 29 2013 at 16:00

Go to the Censorship thread it's all laid out there in great detail.

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Posted: October 29 2013 at 16:03

Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

Go to the Censorship thread it's all laid out there in great detail.

http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=95512&KW=Censorship

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Posted: October 29 2013 at 16:28

Smurph wrote:

Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

Dean wrote:

You really are a Troll aren't you.

He's getting free advertising.

¿What else can he ask?

While we are suffering censorship from Google, people get free advertising.

I don't have problem with musicians, they should be supported, but this site is making money with us and leaving nothing.

¿And for what?

1,000 cover albums with no information.

How are we suffering censorship? If i type in a band and then the word prog into google this site is up on the top usually.

LOL, probably your avatar will be censored

lazland

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Posted: October 29 2013 at 17:08

Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

Smurph wrote:

Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

Dean wrote:

You really are a Troll aren't you.

He's getting free advertising.

¿What else can he ask?

While we are suffering censorship from Google, people get free advertising.

I don't have problem with musicians, they should be supported, but this site is making money with us and leaving nothing.

¿And for what?

1,000 cover albums with no information.

How are we suffering censorship? If i type in a band and then the word prog into google this site is up on the top usually.

LOL, probably your avatar will be censored

I want to know if it's worth getting the DVD LOL

Enhance your life. Get down to www.lazland.org

Now also broadcasting on www.progzilla.com Every Saturday, 4.00 p.m. UK time!

Smurph

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Posted: October 29 2013 at 17:18

lazland wrote:

Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

Smurph wrote:

Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

Dean wrote:

You really are a Troll aren't you.

He's getting free advertising.

¿What else can he ask?

While we are suffering censorship from Google, people get free advertising.

I don't have problem with musicians, they should be supported, but this site is making money with us and leaving nothing.

¿And for what?

1,000 cover albums with no information.

How are we suffering censorship? If i type in a band and then the word prog into google this site is up on the top usually.

LOL, probably your avatar will be censored

I want to know if it's worth getting the DVD LOL

It's not worth getting when you can watch most of the non-sex clips on the internet for free. I'm pretty sure I don't wanna see the sex scenes anyway. LOL

But it is really hilarious.

http://pseudosentai.bandcamp.com/

wtf

lazland

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Posted: October 29 2013 at 17:22

Smurph wrote:

lazland wrote:

Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

Smurph wrote:

Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

Dean wrote:

You really are a Troll aren't you.

He's getting free advertising.

¿What else can he ask?

While we are suffering censorship from Google, people get free advertising.

I don't have problem with musicians, they should be supported, but this site is making money with us and leaving nothing.

¿And for what?

1,000 cover albums with no information.

How are we suffering censorship? If i type in a band and then the word prog into google this site is up on the top usually.

LOL, probably your avatar will be censored

I want to know if it's worth getting the DVD LOL

It's not worth getting when you can watch most of the non-sex clips on the internet for free. I'm pretty sure I don't wanna see the sex scenes anyway.

Now then, let me pretend that I can go back 14 years since I met the wife and utter marital bliss............

Okay then. What the bloody hell is the point of buying or watching a porn flick without the bloody porn? Confused

Enhance your life. Get down to www.lazland.org

Now also broadcasting on www.progzilla.com Every Saturday, 4.00 p.m. UK time!

Smurph

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Posted: October 29 2013 at 17:44

lazland wrote:

Okay then. What the bloody hell is the point of buying or watching a porn flick without the bloody porn? Confused

Some things are much funnier/better without the most important parts.

Porn without the sex, Garfield without Garfield having the ability to speak so Jon just runs around talking to a cat like a lunatic, and for a prog reference, Dream Theater without James LaBrie imo, etc.

Because I find it hilarious. So hilarious. And I would never watch a sex scene with someone that calls herself "Sikki Nix"

Nooooo thanks.

Edited by Smurph - October 29 2013 at 17:45

http://pseudosentai.bandcamp.com/

wtf

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Posted: November 04 2013 at 07:21

Mother Dust

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Free downloads available @ Bandcamp!

motherdust.bandcamp.com

www.facebook.com/mother.dust.conspiracy

www.reverbnation.com/motherdust

Edited by motherdust - November 04 2013 at 16:53

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Posted: November 10 2013 at 12:56

I see that Bandcamp is full of Einstein's who seem to think that a thread that is questioning the value of bandcamp to this particular website is the ideal place to spam their wares and promote themselves. The more this happens the less inclined I am to think that any of these are worth checking out at all.

Perhaps they would find a more receptive place for peddling their music in one of our other threads, like this one:

Bandcamp Recommendations

(catchy name - I wonder what it means?)

What?