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Padraic
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Posted: October 30 2013 at 08:35 |
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While americans insist on calling that tasteless yellow block of rubberised milk-solids "cheddar cheese" |
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Dean
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Posted: October 30 2013 at 09:12 |
Padraic wrote:
Dean wrote:
While americans insist on calling that tasteless yellow block of rubberised milk-solids "cheddar cheese" |
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America produces 3 billion pounds of "cheddar" a year
- last time I looked, Cheddar was in Somerset, England, not Vermont, New England.
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Guldbamsen
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Posted: October 30 2013 at 09:13 |
The cheddar conspiracy strikes back!
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Padraic
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Posted: October 30 2013 at 09:40 |
Dean wrote:
Padraic wrote:
[QUOTE=Dean]While americans insist on calling that tasteless yellow block of rubberised milk-solids "cheddar cheese" |
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America produces 3 billion pounds of "cheddar" a year
- last time I looked, Cheddar was in Somerset, England, not Vermont, New England. [/QUOTE
I don't buy that stuff. But if you would like to insist that the only "real" cheddar comes from your country, be my guest.
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Posted: October 30 2013 at 09:55 |
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While americans insist on calling that tasteless yellow block of rubberised milk-solids "cheddar cheese" I shall call this wonderful creation a Caerphilly Cheese Steak |
Why not, we even call imitation cheese.......cheese.
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Posted: October 30 2013 at 10:36 |
Hi,
Chef's Unite?
Guy Guden will get upset if I say anything about this! Chef Bruno is the ultimate chef!
Well, I can do a nasty Peach or Cherry Jubilee, and I like putting together Baked Alaska's for my friends on their birthdays, but they usually freak out when they see the Rum 151, or the flames!
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Dean
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Posted: October 30 2013 at 11:04 |
Never seen the appeal of flambéing Baked Alaska - all show and no substance and a waste of alcohol (even more so if it's Barcardi 151), but then it's a showy dish that requires little skill to pull-off so it can be quite a crowd-pleaser.
However - I love eating it so I do occasionally make one, and since it doesn't keep that's generally when I'm feeding more than just me and the good lady.
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Posted: October 30 2013 at 21:59 |
It's true; non-Cheddar is still 'Cheddar' even though non-Champagne is called 'sparkling wine'-- our English heritage I suppose. Frankly I like White American cheese on my cheesesteak over Provolone or Cheddar.
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Posted: November 01 2013 at 07:05 |
I made butter last night... I'd done it before years ago with my dad - we churned cream in a jam-jar by shaking it vigorously, which took ages, then last night on TV Mary Berry made some using a food mixer in a matter of minutes. Jaw-hitting-the-floor time. We had half a carton of double cream in the fridge so I tipped that into a bowl and over-whipped it with an electric hand whisk on full speed - within 30 seconds it all started to coagulate as the butterfat solids and buttermilk began to separate out, I turned the whisk down at this point as the buttermilk was splashing all over the worktop. The buttermilk was strained off using a sieve and the remaining butter solids rinsed in cold water and sieved again to remove all the water (you can use a cloth to squeeze the last of the water out) - repeat this until the water runs clear and what remains is pure butter. I added sea salt at this stage as I love salted butter.
300ml of cream seems to yield around 250g of butter - which works out at around half store-price for 10 minutes work. Result!
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Dean
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Posted: November 01 2013 at 07:37 |
Atavachron wrote:
It's true; non-Cheddar is still 'Cheddar' even though non-Champagne is called 'sparkling wine'-- our English heritage I suppose. Frankly I like White American cheese on my cheesesteak over Provolone or Cheddar.
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Alas, cheddar cheese is deemed to be a generic name and not worthy of a PDO (protected designation of origin) which would have been the equivalent of Champagne's d'appleation contrôlée, it seems the lobby of non-Cheddar cheddar cheese producers killed that one stone dead (the USA produces 12 times more cheddar than the UK). So if cheddar is a generic name then cheesesteak is also a generic name regardless of what meat variety the steak is, much like hamburgers are not from Hamburg (or made with ham ). If non-Cheddar cheddar tasted like real cheese from the Cheddar caves then I don't think there would be much of an argument, unfortunately (and this isn't faux-patriotism as this is also true of many English generic cheddar-style cheeses) they don't.
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Posted: November 01 2013 at 10:37 |
One would think this thread would be booming with recipes involving pumpkin. I made pumpkin soup here the other day, and it was really good.
Oven roast 4 half pumpkins with oliveoil, garlic and rosemary. Panfry some pork belly (flæsk) - pour some fat into a big pan/pot where you swoop in some chopped onions and chipotles (smoked chilis). Blend the pumpkins and garlic - mix with onions and a little stock if needed. Lastly you add some creme to taste, perhaps a little vinegar (balsamic) Sprinkle with crisp porkbelly and chives.
Edit: Obviously goes without saying that you need to season the dish throughout
Edited by Guldbamsen - November 01 2013 at 11:08
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Posted: November 01 2013 at 10:45 |
Sounds good - I imagine the pork (bacon) lifts that considerably.
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Posted: November 01 2013 at 11:01 |
It does. I've tried making this for one of my vegetarian friends, where I obviously left out the flæsk ( ) It just misses some of the same depth of flavour as when you infuse a little meat into the dish. The other thing that really makes it work though is the chipotles. Usually pretty common in Ethnic shops and some supermarkets. They're basically canned smoked chilis preserved in oil, which makes the smoky note all the more intense.
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Posted: November 01 2013 at 11:13 |
I've some dried chipotles that I use from time to time, I like that smokey flavour with pork, it works really well. The chili plant on the window sill keeps us supplied in fresh chilli's for everything else.
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Posted: November 01 2013 at 11:20 |
I've thought about getting some plants, but I smoke inside my apartment and like to keep the windows open. At this time of the year, a chilli plant would definitely suffer.
I do make my own chilli that I preserve in oil. So that I always have a little to spice things up with. I am well and truly hooked on that stuff. It's not that I overpower the food, but I just find so many meals that improve with chilli
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Posted: November 01 2013 at 11:26 |
I'm quite good at making eggs. That's about it.
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Posted: November 01 2013 at 11:57 |
I generally leave that to the chickens, they're biologically more capable of making them than I am.
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Posted: November 01 2013 at 12:05 |
I was actually debating changing making to cooking but figured I'd let someone make a wise crack at my expense.
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Dean
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Posted: November 01 2013 at 12:12 |
Guldbamsen wrote:
I've thought about getting some plants, but I smoke inside my apartment and like to keep the windows open. At this time of the year, a chilli plant would definitely suffer.
I do make my own chilli that I preserve in oil. So that I always have a little to spice things up with. I am well and truly hooked on that stuff. It's not that I overpower the food, but I just find so many meals that improve with chilli |
My wife is a non-smoker so I confine my habit to one room and that's never going to be the kitchen - I've put a shelf aross the middle of the window in there to double-up the space for potted herbs and the one chili plant. I've also a table outside that is planted-up with even more herbs.
I've only preserved chili by drying them, though I do have a bottle of oil with dried chili flakes infused into it that I use to drizzle over pizza - I keep topping it up with oil and chili flakes so it never runs out - it must be at least fifteen years old now
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Posted: November 01 2013 at 12:16 |
HemispheresOfXanadu wrote:
I was actually debating changing making to cooking but figured I'd let someone make a wisecrack at my expense. |
shell we go on with this yoke or ovoid it completely?
Give a man an egg and he'll eat for a day, but feed him a tag line and a wisecrack will surely follow.
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