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Poll Question: Which band would you call the fathers of Prog Metal
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 03 2013 at 14:19
^ ummm? Think I like this idea of forefathers and grandfathers. Ok I'll play.

If I had a prog metal family tree I would hope it would look like this.

Grandmother--Queensr˙che ( queen is female lol)
Grandfather--Fates Warning
Parents-- Mom--Iron Maiden of course (bit of a bitch though lol)
               Dad--Dream Theater (great dad lol)
Siblings--Symphony X, Angra and Savatage

Cousins---Psychotic Waltz, Haken and Royal Hunt

And of course their is always the weird, dirty little red-headed step child that nobody wants to play with cause they are a little out there.
They would be...
Cynic, Tool, Animals as leaders and Devin Townsend

And that ladies and gents would be my family or birth rite for prog metal. It's a nice family. I swear.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 03 2013 at 14:19
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by VOTOMS VOTOMS wrote:

Iced Earth is much more progressive than Iron Maiden and they  aren't here.
Well, there's a late-comer who's completely missed the point. LOL
 
 
 
Ermm
 
 
 
 
 
 
LOL

Just saying Disapprove

Btw, War Pigs came before Rush. But I can't see Rush or Sabbath influences in the most regarded "prog metal" bands. 

And heres the godfathers of prog metal




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 03 2013 at 17:12
So, still missing the point then. LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 03 2013 at 20:44
Sabbath is metal with some prog songs. Rush is prog with some metal songs. Both relevants, but the prog metal scene is much more Iron Maiden/melodic oriented.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 04 2013 at 00:00
The Who because of great John Entwistle's "metal" bass and because of their 1969 / 1970 shows.




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 04 2013 at 10:02
I wonder if Townshend knows he was one of the fathers of prog metal....?
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 05 2013 at 13:09
Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

I wonder if Townshend knows he was one of the fathers of prog metal....?
 
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Yea...
 Actually, I have in mind Entwistle's loudest on the World, "metal" bass sound what he was invented in the middle of 60's (rip John).

Heaven & Hell is Enwistle's song and that one was The Who's opening song at their  69/70 gigs. 





Trick of the Light, an awesome Entwistle's song. This is the live version where Townshend and Entwistle both played basses.







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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 05 2013 at 13:14
....I never thought of The Who as 'prog metal'......always thought of them as 'power pop/classic rock'.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 05 2013 at 14:23
My vote was Other as I feel pretty strongly that Deep Purple fits the bill of Prog-Metal. Sabbath were never Prog, not even when keys entered into the picture on Sabbath Bloody Sabbath.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 05 2013 at 14:26
I don't get the votes for Rush really. I mean, you could say they were prog metal up to All The World's Stage, but hell they formed in 1974. Deep Purple was 1968.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 05 2013 at 17:47
Originally posted by deafmoon deafmoon wrote:



My vote was Other as I feel pretty strongly that Deep Purple fits the bill of Prog-Metal. Sabbath were never Prog, not even when keys entered into the picture on Sabbath Bloody Sabbath.


Yeah Deep Purple can be an honorable mention here. I mean, I look at guitarist Richie Blackmore and what he was doing with deep purple and then he took that edge sound with his guitar and blew the bloody doors off when he flipped over to start up Rainbow. Rainbow has some 'Prog metal' material, especially with 1975's Stargazer but I would never list deep purple or Rainbow as a papa to Prog metal. Just my opinion though ;)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 05 2013 at 20:30
Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

....I never thought of The Who as 'prog metal'......always thought of them as 'power pop/classic rock'.
I thought of The Who as Rock. 
Entwistle was invented that "metal" bass sound, that's all.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 06 2013 at 14:03
Originally posted by Svetonio Svetonio wrote:

Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

....I never thought of The Who as 'prog metal'......always thought of them as 'power pop/classic rock'.
I thought of The Who as Rock. 
Entwistle was invented that "metal" bass sound, that's all.
 
OK...but what exactly is 'metal bass sound'...? And which prog metal bands use that sound?
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 07 2013 at 01:13
Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

Originally posted by Svetonio Svetonio wrote:

Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

....I never thought of The Who as 'prog metal'......always thought of them as 'power pop/classic rock'.
I thought of The Who as Rock. 
Entwistle was invented that "metal" bass sound, that's all.
 
OK...but what exactly is 'metal bass sound'...? And which prog metal bands use that sound?
 

This is "metal" bass sound I guess:
 



All the metal bands were used that sound  - or none of them if I'v been wrong when I said that father (grandfather, that's better) of metal sound is John Entwistle (rip) as the bassist of The Who in their heydays.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 07 2013 at 11:31
Originally posted by Svetonio Svetonio wrote:

Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

Originally posted by Svetonio Svetonio wrote:

Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

....I never thought of The Who as 'prog metal'......always thought of them as 'power pop/classic rock'.
I thought of The Who as Rock. 
Entwistle was invented that "metal" bass sound, that's all.
 
OK...but what exactly is 'metal bass sound'...? And which prog metal bands use that sound?
 

This is "metal" bass sound I guess:
 



All the metal bands were used that sound  - or none of them if I'v been wrong when I said that father (grandfather, that's better) of metal sound is John Entwistle (rip) as the bassist of The Who in their heydays.
 
I still don't 'hear' anything other than a good solid bass sound there....you can find the same/similar sound (not referring to his playing..) in many hard rock bands of that time frame.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 07 2013 at 13:48
Originally posted by octopus-4 octopus-4 wrote:

Blue Oyster Cult, Wishbone Ash and Deep Purple are the first names in my mind, but also Colosseum nd Uriah Heep.
Thinking to the prog metal in Ayreon's style (long concepts with contaminations from folk and pop) I'd say the Who




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 09 2013 at 12:42



Iron Butterfly=Heavy Metal........just saying
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 09 2013 at 23:26
Originally posted by timothy leary timothy leary wrote:

Iron Butterfly=Heavy Metal........just saying

I remember on the back album cover of In-a-Gadda-da-Vida there was a write-up about the band.  It said something like "Iron because it's heavy, Butterfly because it was free" or something 60's like that Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 10 2013 at 12:35
I thought Steppenwolf first gave us "heavy metal thunder"?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 10 2013 at 14:20
Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

I thought Steppenwolf first gave us "heavy metal thunder"?
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