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twseel ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December 15 2012 Location: abroad Status: Offline Points: 22767 |
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Still strange, but I'll leave it then.
I also assume Dean has better things to do.
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Dean ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout Joined: May 13 2007 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 37575 |
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When I investigate reports I don't just look at the ratings list and make a snap judgement. I look for patterns and distributions in the ratings. In this case:
He hasn't rated every album by a band
He has rated over a reasonable cross-section of genres with emphasis on genres he really likes
He hasn't given low ratings to albums that are "competing" for chart position with the albums he likes He has rated 137 albums since January 2006, that's an average of 21 albums per year.Nothing there indicates any form of abuse. Sure he's given nothing but 5-star ratings, but that is not a crime.
So the conclusion is: He only rated albums he likes.
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twseel ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December 15 2012 Location: abroad Status: Offline Points: 22767 |
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K then
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sanhedrin ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: October 27 2009 Status: Offline Points: 7 |
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I would like to report these strange inappropriate ratings . I guess someone may have seen this already ??
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Second Life Syndrome ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: August 20 2012 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 361 |
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WOW! That's a lot of 1 star ratings!
Edited by Second Life Syndrome - July 23 2013 at 14:28 |
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aapatsos ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: November 11 2005 Location: Manchester, UK Status: Offline Points: 9226 |
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I think he just pressed the "random rating" button
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Dean ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout Joined: May 13 2007 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 37575 |
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WOW! That's a hell of a lot of illegally downloaded (stolen) albums
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twseel ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December 15 2012 Location: abroad Status: Offline Points: 22767 |
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He also has a friend: http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=47894 who also filled the Muse-discography(between others) with one-star and five-star ratings.
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Dean ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout Joined: May 13 2007 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 37575 |
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For drawing attention to my dyslexia I'm allowing the ratings to stay.
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sukmytoe ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 18 2013 Location: South Africa Status: Offline Points: 291 |
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I've seen this topic before discussed here but I would like to lend my thinking as well to the rating system. Unless someone can justify, with a written review, a rating given, I can't see why a rating should be allowed as it allows for abuse. I understand that there are many who are not fluent with the use of the English language and that, for me, is the only reason why rating only, here on PA, should possibly exist. A serious rating should only really count, in my opinion, if a lot of thought has gone into that rating here and if a "rater" is not prepared to put thought into a review then why should it count toward an album's score here or anywhere else. It is way too easy perhaps just to dislike an album for whatever reason, real or imagined, and to just put a score down. Perfection in anything is an ideal that should be the goal of anything - including PA. Unless doors for abuse are shut down abuse will exist - it's the way of things unfortunately. This site is profoundly important to those who love prog rock and to music lovers in general and I would say that a lot of "store" goes into what we say here on PA relating to albums and to artists and we can in fact have a large say relating to sales and acceptance of an artist.
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Just my own thoughts on that matter.
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Second Life Syndrome ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: August 20 2012 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 361 |
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I think he's preaching to the choir
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Logan ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() Site Admin Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Vancouver, BC Status: Offline Points: 37233 |
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I did some ratings when the quick rating feature came out, and asw it as a means merely to list some of my personal favourite albums. The way an album ranks is not really important to me. That said, I'd quite like to see ratings have a 0 weighted value so they don't count towards the average rating score while keeping the ability to make ratings only.
Not everyone enjoys writing reviews even if they could. Some like to use ratings to show what they like, and/or as a means to make personal lists, and don't care about how it affects the ranking or general rating. I sometimes like to see members ratings merely to get a better idea of their tastes in music, and if I know that they have similar tastes, then as a means to look into their faves that I haven't heard as I can expect to like those too. I can think of some personally trusted mostly ratings-only people whose ratings helped me to discover great-for-me music. |
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Second Life Syndrome ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: August 20 2012 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 361 |
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That's a great idea.
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Guldbamsen ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Retired Admin Joined: January 22 2009 Location: Magic Theatre Status: Offline Points: 23104 |
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Great post Greg, and in keeping with it I'd like to add that I too have found a fair deal of albums that were right up my alley - just by looking at interesting folks' list. You, in particular, are responsible for quite a big chunk of money missing from my bank account, and I am very grateful for that.
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Earendil ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 17 2008 Location: Indiana, USA Status: Offline Points: 1584 |
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This person has two accounts and they rated whole discographies with either 1 or 5 stars using both accounts, all rating only. They rated virtually every release on the site involving a Yes band members with 5 stars on both accounts...
Make that 3 accounts: Edited by Earendil - August 09 2013 at 23:52 |
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timothy leary ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December 29 2005 Location: Lilliwaup, Wa. Status: Offline Points: 5319 |
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Another manipulator............
http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=48946
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Dean ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout Joined: May 13 2007 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 37575 |
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timothy leary ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December 29 2005 Location: Lilliwaup, Wa. Status: Offline Points: 5319 |
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http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=48888
http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=48892 Same person??
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timothy leary ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December 29 2005 Location: Lilliwaup, Wa. Status: Offline Points: 5319 |
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Okay then , not the same person, just two guys from mexico named Edgar who have rated the same albums in a similar way.
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