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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 19 2013 at 11:52
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

and to the radio on one of these:
 
Nostalgia is seeing the world through rose-tinted spectacles.
I had an AM/FM mono portable radio kind of like that in the early '70's.  That one looks like someone threw mud ad the speaker.
Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 19 2013 at 13:11
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And for the musicians themselves, maintaining a Mellotron in smooth working order required more dedication that a sick pet puppy, often a dedicated guy for the big bands which could afford it.

When King Crimson played San Francisco in '74 they had to limp through with only one of the two trons working.  An aside...a friend was at the show and also on the bill was 10 Years After.  While Crimso was on this girl behind him kept asking her boyfriend, "Is that Alvin Lee?" LOL

Anyway, remember how often your cassette or 8 track tape would get stuck in the rollers and spit out in a creased and folded mess?  Multiply that by 35 more tapes and you have the nightmare that was the Mellotron...'course when it worked it was as if angels had descended to earth Bowdown
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 19 2013 at 13:45
Originally posted by The.Crimson.King The.Crimson.King wrote:


Originally posted by Gerinski Gerinski wrote:

And for the musicians themselves, maintaining a Mellotron in smooth working order required more dedication that a sick pet puppy, often a dedicated guy for the big bands which could afford it.


When King Crimson played San Francisco in '74 they had to limp through with only one of the two trons working.  <span style="line-height: 1.2;">An aside...a friend was at the show and also on the bill was 10 Years After.  While Crimso was on this girl behind him kept asking her boyfriend, "Is that Alvin Lee?" </span>LOL
Anyway, remember how often your cassette or 8 track tape would get stuck in the rollers and spit out in a creased and folded mess?  Multiply that by 35 more tapes and you have the nightmare that was the Mellotron...'course when it worked it was as if angels had descended to earth Bowdown


I imagine it would be pretty hard to fix a busted tron. I wouldn't know where to begin.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 19 2013 at 22:06


I had the same radio as Gilligan. I was really proud of that.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 19 2013 at 22:24
^ sweet; that thing was one of the most important characters in the show
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 19 2013 at 23:07
Remember when the batteries died? And they had some extra ones in the boat? But they were dead too? And the professor said "Sometimes batteries die even if you never used them?" So he made a battery out of a potato, I think?

That was awesome.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 19 2013 at 23:24
with that reel-to-reel Tongo left behind they could'a had quite the little sound system
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 19 2013 at 23:27
Originally posted by progbethyname progbethyname wrote:

Originally posted by The.Crimson.King The.Crimson.King wrote:


Originally posted by Gerinski Gerinski wrote:

And for the musicians themselves, maintaining a Mellotron in smooth working order required more dedication that a sick pet puppy, often a dedicated guy for the big bands which could afford it.


When King Crimson played San Francisco in '74 they had to limp through with only one of the two trons working.  <span style="line-height: 1.2;">An aside...a friend was at the show and also on the bill was 10 Years After.  While Crimso was on this girl behind him kept asking her boyfriend, "Is that Alvin Lee?" </span>LOL
Anyway, remember how often your cassette or 8 track tape would get stuck in the rollers and spit out in a creased and folded mess?  Multiply that by 35 more tapes and you have the nightmare that was the Mellotron...'course when it worked it was as if angels had descended to earth Bowdown


I imagine it would be pretty hard to fix a busted tron. I wouldn't know where to begin.

I have a great book called "The Mellotron Book" that covers the entire history and details of how they work (or don't work as the case may be Wink) and how to repair them.  I'm pretty sure it's now out of print, but I'd be surprised if the info isn't available on the net somewhere.  Basically, the way to fix a busted tron is tear it apart and rebuild from the ground up.  Here's a fun video on the restoration of a seriously abused early 70's M400 mellotron...warning: this is not for the feint of heart LOL

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 20 2013 at 00:01
In Tito's Yugoslavia it wasn't expensive to buy  LPs which were pressed here under the licence; a lot of 70s rock albums were issued in Yugosalvia under licence, so progressive rock albums too ( of course, it was available to order LPs directly from GB).  Also, so many times the records shops in Yugoslavia sold out LPs at half price that I bought at very low  prices such masterpieces as Genesis Live,  Yes' Tales,  RTF's Where Have I Know You From Before, Wigwam's Nuclear Nightclub,  Dead's From The Mars Hotel, Steve Hillage's and so on.

Also, an equipment made in Yugoslavia:  turntable Tosca (RIZ Zagreb) was low price but good quality and with Ei Niš reciever and speakers, you get a nice sound. 






It was my first equipment, when I was 13 yrs old. One of the reasons why  I  Heart Tito's self-managment socialism


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   Well , i don't really Know about the other Guys !!   but i'm only giving my Opinion about this //

   things were too difficult back then , and Albums were highly appreciated upon release , specially if we knew the Band .  what was Unique in that Era was , we've had our Time to Discover the Beauty of those Albums , i mean a song at a time , we never knew that the Floyds , the Crimsons , VDGG , Jethro Tull will still active till now-a-days !!   Anyway , things were properly done , with Peace of Mind , the Competition was only heading to the Best .  I Believe none of our Fathers knew about Progressive to recommend anything for Us , we've done it the Hard Ways !! all the Eldest on this Site knows what i mean !   and , Definitely we have now the Best Source and Reliable Archive in the World concerning Progressive Rock Music from all categories , kinds and Styles , and , i believe it was done because of you Guys , our new Generation , that we depend a lot on your activities for the next decades  !  I Salute you all from Lebanon , and , i believe , one way or another , we did our share in this //
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 20 2013 at 14:14
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by tamijo tamijo wrote:

Not to mention that the price of an album was very high campared to the wages of especialy younger people.
Making a collection of just 100 albums, was almost impossible for young people, most of had 30-50 albums to chose between.
The price was almost the same as today, but the wages was very low.
Absolutely. The price of music has remained pretty much constant since the late 80s. I remember not buying Tales From Topographic Oceans when it was released simply because I could not afford it. Wages were such that if I behaved myself and was very careful with my budget I could just about manage to buy an album every two weeks. Of course that makes the 300+ albums I did buy between 1971 and 1980 all the more special.
 
Let's see ... at Moby Disk, anything I bought would be between $15 and $20 bux each ... so the new Klaus Schulze, or Peter hammill, or Banco ... you already know it was going to cost a few doodles. Heck, I was working as a cook only making $6.50 an hour in 1975 and got a raise to $7 for 1976 ... so do the math! It DID make it easier when my roomate did bring home a few records from the station, but almost all the "imports" were picked up in Los Angeles in various spots ... and the prices were not cheap then!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 20 2013 at 14:22
$7.00 an hour in 1976 looks like a fortune from my old Spanish eyes, good for you!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 20 2013 at 14:52

Isn't minimum wage in the USA something like $7.00 an hour now?

Back in '76 I was earning £30 for a 40 hour week, which is about $54 at 1976 exchange rates so that was around $1.35/hr.
 
On the upside, albums weren't $15-$20 each (even on import) so any comparison is meaningless.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 20 2013 at 15:03
Federal min wage is something like that but many States have higher min wages I believe.  Some cities I think even have their own, like San Fran's is over $10 an hour.

My first job paid me 3.10 an hour as I recall. 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 20 2013 at 15:19
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

 
On the upside, albums weren't $15-$20 each (even on import) so any comparison is meaningless.
In my native Spain in the 70's LPs were in the range of 4 ~ 7 euro, something like 5 ~ 9 US$ (of course euro didn't exist yet). Imports maybe 25% more expensive.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 20 2013 at 16:10
In the 60s I had one of these:



and one of these:



In the 70s We had "walkmans" like this:



But mainly THIS....I still have it in my garage and it's where I've listened to DSOTM for the first time.
Setting the "auto" function to 45rpm, the pick-up was positioned exactly at the beginning of The Great Gig In The Sky.




In my car I was used to bring with me this:



I cried when it reached its end of life. It was designed for self-instruction foreign languages courses but it became my car audio for years.

Finally in the 80s with my first fixed job I purchased the equipments below:








(dubbing tapes...you know...)

I haven't found pictures of my equalizer and speakers which were from a short lived Italian company (JE)

but I still have a mixer very similar (not the same model) to this:



Another reason to have two tape recorders (for overdubbing)

In terms of instruments:














Somebody has stolen my Farfisa from the garage where my actual band was rehearsing.



OK, let's stop here. Just some vintage pictures.... now all my music is there...



with several 32GB MicroSD cards of course....
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 20 2013 at 17:18
Originally posted by trackstoni trackstoni wrote:

   Well , i don't really Know about the other Guys !!   but i'm only giving my Opinion about this //
   things were too difficult back then , and Albums were highly appreciated upon release , specially if we knew the Band .  what was Unique in that Era was , we've had our Time to Discover the Beauty of those Albums , i mean a song at a time , we never knew that the Floyds , the Crimsons , VDGG , Jethro Tull will still active till now-a-days !!   Anyway , things were properly done , with Peace of Mind , the Competition was only heading to the Best .  I Believe none of our Fathers knew about Progressive to recommend anything for Us , we've done it the Hard Ways !! all the Eldest on this Site knows what i mean !   and , Definitely we have now the Best Source and Reliable Archive in the World concerning Progressive Rock Music from all categories , kinds and Styles , and , i believe it was done because of you Guys , our new Generation , that we depend a lot on your activities for the next decades  !  I Salute you all from Lebanon , and , i believe , one way or another , we did our share in this //


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 20 2013 at 17:20
Originally posted by Finnforest Finnforest wrote:

Federal min wage is something like that but many States have higher min wages I believe.  Some cities I think even have their own, like San Fran's is over $10 an hour.My first job paid me 3.10 an hour as I recall. 



In Canada it is 10$
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 20 2013 at 17:50
yeah we're at 10 here in SF, for some reason I thought that was statewide 
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What the various minumum wages are now isn't really the point I was making... to me $7.00/hr seemed like quite a lot of money for 1976 considering that is it roughly what the minimum wage is now and I was trying to get a perspective on that... I'm going to take a guess and say the average US wage in 1976 was probably not much over $9,000, which would be about $4.30/hr... for a teen/young adult it would be considerably less
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