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Dirty Three
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Formed in 1993 by Mick Turner, guitar, Jim White, drums and Warren Ellis, violin, Dirty Three area violin driven folkish Post rock band with classical influences. Their sound has transformed over the years from the fast aggression of the first 3 albums, to the slow ambience of "Ocean Songs". The sound changed again on "Cinder" adding vocals, and a cleaner production. 

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3.25 | 4 ratings
Sad & Dangerous
1994
3.43 | 7 ratings
Dirty Three
1995
2.78 | 10 ratings
Horse Stories
1996
3.62 | 31 ratings
Ocean Songs
1998
3.87 | 15 ratings
Whatever You Love, You Are
1999
3.67 | 12 ratings
She Has No Strings Apollo
2003
2.38 | 7 ratings
Cinder
2005
3.50 | 2 ratings
Toward the Low Sun
2012

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Dirty Three Post Rock/Math rock

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2 stars Downbeat, melancholy, violin soaked ambience that is difficult to adjust to.

Cinder by Dirty Three came to my attention because I am Australian and there are so few prog bands from my great local island that I feel it a duty to access, wherever I can, anything progressive from Australia. The problem is I rarely come across anything as innovative as, say, Dream Theater (USA) or Riverside (Poland) or PFM (Italy), instead the music tends to focus on a dreamy soft lulling melancholia which is simply not for my tastes. So it is with trepidation that I approach this review on a local band. First of all the music is definitive post rock and I am definitely not into this subgenre. I find it tiresome and lacking in many areas. The rock instrumentation for non-rock purposes on this album focusses on the violin as the primary instrument and it has its place in many bands I believe, namely VDGG and Comus, however in this case the Dirty Three utilise the violin as a very sleepy addition, rather than playing it aggressively. There are no riffs to speak off of course in this genre but the music is quite forgettable as a result. It meanders along and you need more patience to receive it than the average Godspeed You! Black Emperor album.

The haunting ambience on such tracks as 'Cinders' is pleasant enough, with very slow chord changes and erratic jazzy drumming, but once again it is likely to send you to sleep. The repetition of the chords and the slowness of the music is there to entrance, it is obvious, but I still cannot get into this style at all. The first 5 tracks are so forgettable I cannot even recall one note, however I gave this a chance and kept listening despite my sudden urge to throw on some Riverside or VDGG.

On the first few tracks of the album, there are no full on up-tempo tracks to balance the slow pace, although some of the drumming is infectious such as the heavy beat on 'Doris', perhaps the heaviest track on "Cinder". The guitar jangles and crashes on this track, using pretty much one note for a while and there are the additions of bagpipes by Mark Soul, giving it a unique, uplifting feel. It is certainly a highlight among a plethora of mediocrity in the first 6 tracks.

Thankfully it actually gets better after a very poor start. The violins are overlayed and aggressive on the longest track on the album 'Flutter'. The drums are sporadic and improvised on this as a two note structure provides some tension and release. Another highlight due to its strange structure, after a while it settles into a clean guitar and moaning violin duet. The drums slow as if exhausted. There is an ominous unsettling feel about the music. After a slow start, it seems the album actually gets better as you get deeper into it. The repetition grows on you and the violin is a solid contributor to the ambience.

'The Zither Player' is, yes a track based on zither, giving it a foreign sound, perhaps Greek in flavour. It is a solid diversion from the ambience and presents a traditional folk or Gypsy violin sound. It grows on you on each listen and breaks up the slow pace very well. I started to like the album at this point.

'It happened' is a short tune with a duel clean guitar and moderate drum beat. The violin is absent and al the better for it at this stage. It is a quiet track and just flows along without any lead breaks, each instrument complimenting one another with deceptively simple chords.

'Great Waves' begins with a simple guitar picking and then Chan Marshall sings in a Celtic style the lyrics that are quite heartfelt and sad; "giving up, it's over, the world's wait is over... our bodies are exploding as the sky spews though our mouths..." An intriguing song and surprising with the sudden vocals, a first for Dirty Three and a very good addition too. I thought it was Bjork for a second and had to check the liner notes, it sounds like her at times. Once again a very good track that shines among the greyness.

The violins return in a soft balladic track, 'Dream Evie'. This is a two chord structure with some interesting sections but reminds me of the poor quality opening tracks too much to enjoy it.

A strange drum method moves the next track along, with some very slow violin and guitar. 'Too soon too late' is OK but once again will send you to sleep. Perhaps this is best played at night for insomniacs, I admit I feel sleepy when I hear it. The same goes for 'This Night' that is another dreamy slow ambient piece that does not peak my interest.

The strange atmospheric 'Rain On' has some innovative violin with staccato flourishes and shades of light and dark. The drums accompany the jagged shapes and it is another highlight for me.

'Ember' features violin, guitar and wire brushed rubbing on the skins. It feels as rainy as the previous track. I like the guitars on this in particular, the sad violin works well and it tends to build from a depressing atmosphere to an uplifting one.

'Feral' is another standout track sung beautifully by Sally Timms, who in fact does not use lyrics but 'ahs' and 'oohs' to great effect. The violin and piano play very creatively together and an unusual time signature shatters the ambience. It is a sad atmosphere that is created but still somehow is uplifting with Timms' clear vocalisations.

'Last dance' has more wire brush and tapping without a definitive beat, but the slow pace suits the guitar twangs. The minimalist feel is haunting and almost free form piano holds the atonal melody together. This is quite an experimental track that does not rely on a beat or a particular instrument, rather every instrument creates an overall style. This did feel like a GY!BE style due to the non reliance on rhythm and opposition of instruments.

The last track 'In Fall' begins with a soft gentle guitar and slow violins, with wire brushes caressing the drums. The music has really slowed to a halt as it if knows it will be ending soon. The patient non rhythmic free form is a major component again, but this track does have some intriguing guitar passages. This is some of the slowest music I have ever heard and once again I cannot help but to compare it with some of GY!BE's style for this reason.

OK, so I made it to the end of the album, but it was a weary slog, apart from the middle section with some innovative intriguing sections to speak of. The music is definitively instrumental apart from the addition of some pleasant vocals on two tracks, and these are both so good one wonders why there are not more like this. The vocals break up the hyper ambience and send the music into new more pleasant directions. However this album is sad, melancholy, slow and dreary for the most part. This may appeal to those who want to wallow in a sad dreamy state in their music, but I prefer more upbeat music with instrumental breaks and lyrics, not this background music.

I can give this 2 stars at least for the standout tracks.


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The Death Cobra
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The Death Cobra comes with a conceptualised mythology and is a project lead by guitarist and synth player Tobias De Maine and drummer Niko Viletic, occasionally joined by Warren Greaves. The band produce sludgy, psychedelic instrumentals that jam along with extended fusion sounds, not unlike The Mahavishnu Orchestra, Gong, and a touch of King Crimson on the heavier side. The band experimetns with narrations and sound effects at times, and their live shows in Queensland feature flashy psychedelic light shows and innovative video displays. 

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Ambient shoegaze band The Dead Sea hailed from Sydney, as a project for Tim Bruniges. Following his solo EP in 2008, Bruniges recruited Nick Kennedy on drums and multi-instrumentalist David Trumpmanis to the band. In 2010, the band released a debut self titled album, available as a free download on their internet homepage. The post rock alternative sound consists of ballads, sparse ambience and shoegaze drones. Vocals and rock permeate certain passages of music making them a very accessible band at times. 

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EP

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Dead Letter Opener


The Band

2008 and 2009 was a special era for extreme tech metal band Dead Letter Opener as they received national exposure with the video for 'Yours and What's Mine' and promotional tour in Australia. The first full-length album "Lumen" was released with the members; Mick Millard - vocals, bass, keyboards, Chris Lait - guitar, and Richie Young - drums. "Lumen" was a success for the band, described as "a satisfyingly dynamic voyage of progressive heaviness, perfectly encapsulating the bands powerful and unique sound."

More tours in 2010 around Australia helped promote their latest release, and they plan to play gigs outside of Australia, including New Zealand,  Malaysia, Singapore, North America, Canada and Europe.


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Dead Letter Opener Lumen album cover

EP
Dead Letter Opener Certified Nerdcore album cover

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Dead Letter Circus
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Australian Neo Prog band formed in 2005, with members from the disbanded prog metal band Ochre, Kim Benzie, vocals, and Stewart Hill, bass forming a new band. Rob Maric, guitars and Scott Davey, drums, joined and thus Dead Letter Circus was created. In 2007 the first self titled EP saw the light of day and was reviewed positively. Davey left in 2008 to be replaced by Luke Williams, drums. 2009 was the year the debut album was released, culminating in the single 'The Space on the Wall'. In 2010 Dead Letter Circus toured in the US, and were rewarded with a record contract with Warner Bros. The debut "This Is The Warning" was followed by a tour in 2010 and more tours to follow. 


The Album
Dead Letter Circus This Is the Warning album cover
- Kim Benzie / vocals
- Stewart Hill / bass 
- Rob Maric / guitars
- Luke Williams / drums



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^^^^Thanks!


Time for a new entry then.


Dead Can Dance
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Prog Folk band from Aussie, began in 1981 by Guitarist Brendan Perry and vocalist Lisa Gerrard, joined by bassist Paul Erikson, and drummer Simon Monroe. In 1982, Perry and Gerrard relocated to London and became a duo touring and with Erickson began recording albums in 1984. After some success, 1993 saw the release of "Into the Labyrinth", the first proper studio album to be released in America. The American and European tour followed and became a documentary in 1994 "Toward the Within". In 1996, they released "Spiritchaser" and followed up with an international tour. The band disbanded in 1999, with Gerrard and Perry continuing to work as solo artists 


The Albums

3.17 | 49 ratings
Dead Can Dance
1984
3.41 | 59 ratings
Spleen And Ideal
1985
4.00 | 93 ratings
Within The Realm Of A Dying Sun
1987
3.85 | 81 ratings
The Serpent's Egg
1988
3.26 | 68 ratings
Aion
1990
3.88 | 70 ratings
Into The Labyrinth 
1993
2.83 | 41 ratings
Spiritchaser
1996
3.66 | 70 ratings
Anastasis
2012


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 12 2013 at 00:25
Hi Claire, there's quite a few great Aussie bands painstakingly listed in this thread by AtomicCrimsonRush, so if you have the time to read through I'm sure you'll be rewarded with some surprises.

Birds Robe Collective is certainly a good place to start anyway.

Also you can check out Hibernal (link in my sig) which is free to download for a limited time.
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Hi, I love Aussie Prog,

How can I find more?
I'm on facebook with Birds Robe Collective
http://www.facebook.com/birdsrobe

Are there any other similar labels/promoters? or any individual bands I should check out?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 09 2013 at 06:16
Originally posted by bonestorm bonestorm wrote:

Wow, great work on this thread AtomicCrimsonRush, must have been very time consuming!  I have discovered a few local acts I hadn't heard before because of it.

Hopefully I can get Hibernal added to PA before you reach the 'H's.  Tongue



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If the thread is gaining attention for some Aus prog, its all worth the time spent creating it.  
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Wow, great work on this thread AtomicCrimsonRush, must have been very time consuming!  I have discovered a few local acts I hadn't heard before because of it.

Hopefully I can get Hibernal added to PA before you reach the 'H's.  Tongue
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 26 2013 at 05:45
Originally posted by Aussie-Byrd-Brother Aussie-Byrd-Brother wrote:

Scott, sadly your Cybotron post reminded me if when I left behind their `Implosion' LP at a record fair once so many years ago....I had never heard them at the time, but expected nothing special, so I didn't buy it. Of course, I've never come across it since and would LOVE to get a copy! Dirt cheap it was too....

If you can find it somewhere, get it. It is very good!
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Originally posted by Aussie-Byrd-Brother Aussie-Byrd-Brother wrote:

Scott, sadly your Cybotron post reminded me if when I left behind their `Implosion' LP at a record fair once so many years ago....I had never heard them at the time, but expected nothing special, so I didn't buy it. Of course, I've never come across it since and would LOVE to get a copy! Dirt cheap it was too....

thats a shame - hope you find it again tho i have never seen it!
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Originally posted by danalive danalive wrote:

Hi guys,

I've been looking for a resource like this so I can discover some touring prog bands.

One which I've found is Xenograft. Check out their bandcamp site for music: http://xenograft.bandcamp.com/track/xenograft-exit-ep-preview

If you take suggestions, maybe we could flag in the original post the current touring acts? :)

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Actually the prog gigs are listed in the gig section but good idea. Glad people are hearing more OzProg!Big smile
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Hi guys,

I've been looking for a resource like this so I can discover some touring prog bands.

One which I've found is Xenograft. Check out their bandcamp site for music: http://xenograft.bandcamp.com/track/xenograft-exit-ep-preview

If you take suggestions, maybe we could flag in the original post the current touring acts? :)

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Scott, sadly your Cybotron post reminded me if when I left behind their `Implosion' LP at a record fair once so many years ago....I had never heard them at the time, but expected nothing special, so I didn't buy it. Of course, I've never come across it since and would LOVE to get a copy! Dirt cheap it was too....
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Later will look at:

DEAD CAN DANCE Prog Folk
DEAD LETTER CIRCUS Neo-Prog
DEAD LETTER OPENER Tech/Extreme Prog Metal
THE DEAD SEA Post Rock/Math rock
THE DEATH COBRA Heavy Prog
DIRTY THREE Post Rock/Math rock
VIRGIL DONATI Jazz Rock/Fusion
DRUNKEN GUNMEN Psychedelic/Space Rock


I will return....


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Thanks Aussie! I was glad to be reunited with such a terrific Kraut influenced artist as Cybotron!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 08 2013 at 04:51
Great work as always Scott! Cool to see my review there, which reminds me I wrote in it I was going to transfer that Cybotron LP onto a USB stick! I did finally get that USB turntable, but it transfers it at 128 kb as a default, and you can't make it any better quality, really put me off using it too.

Oh, I can't speak highly enough about that Ben Craven album, first class, grand and melodic symphonic prog that fans of the Flower Kings might really got for, and he's even a great vocalist as a bonus lol! I bought the LP copy that looks amazing on the larger format!
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I will get back to this project later - hope you are enjoying it thus far




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The cool thing about this band is that the debut album was one of the albums that really impacted me as a child, "Monster Planet" from 1975. The electro drone and spacey synths dominate throughout and there are some wacky ideas coming through as the "monster planet ate the sun". This is an iconic album that still packs a punch with crazy saxophone squeaks, buzzing synths, twittering moogs and deep bass textures, along with Jim Keays' echoing vox. The album was followed up by "Cybotron" in 1976, "Colossus" in 1978, and finally "Implosion" in 1980. 
The name Cybotron is derived as a hybrid of Klaus Schultze's "Cyborg" album, that influenced Braund. The use of the Mellotron was added as Tron in the name title, and the word 'cyclotron'. It represented half man, half machine, and has the german motorik feel of Krautrock. The influences are obvious with Tangerine Dream, Amon Duul II, early Pink Floyd, Hawkwind, Ash Ra Temple and early Kraftwerk. 

The line up has varied beginning with the "Monster Planet" debut:  

- Steve Maxwell Von Braund / synthesisers, alto saxophone
- Geoff Green / lyricist
- Gil 'Rats' Matthews / drums, bass guitars
- Jim Keays 'The Boy From The Stars' / vocals
- Henry Vyhnal / electric violin

The last album featured a different lineup:

- Steve Braund / keyboards, synthesisers, alto saxophone
- Mark Jones / bass
- Gil 'Rats' Matthews / drums, guitars, keyboards, synthesisers

The Albums:
4.50 | 2 ratings
Monster Planet (Steve Maxwell Von Braund)
1975
2.46 | 5 ratings
Cybotron
1976
3.27 | 12 ratings
Colossus
1978
2.64 | 5 ratings
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1980

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from my Aussie friend....

Colossus
Cybotron Progressive Electronic

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3 stars Australia's Cybotron are an instrumental synthesizer heavy band, who played spacey and repetitive electronica-tinged prog, with an interesting combination of live acoustic and programmed percussion. Taking many elements from German acts like Ashra, Eloy and Tangerine Dream, without ever blatantly ripping them off, the Melbourne band's 1978 album `Colossus' displays plenty of infectious energy, enthusiasm and is packed with top playing and great arrangements.

Considering they're from my home town, it's surprising that I ignored this album for many years! The simple reason is my vinyl LP cover is torn and in terrible condition, so it was kind of off-putting and not pleasant to look at! Fortunately the LP itself is in good condition! But I'll be reviewing the compact disc version, which has a very controversial history that I'll explain later.

After a very spacey and programmed intro with a great build, the title track `Colossus' features a highly unusual treated saxophone blowing away, floating between synths and rattling percussion. Keyboard solos swirl around, stomping drums pounds away - drummer Colin Butcher is relentless on this track! Electronic effects punch through, before a very symphonic finale. It's got quite an upbeat tempo! What a way to start the album! Much of it wouldn't have sounded out of place on a 70's Eloy album.

The ten minute epic `Eclipse' has almost three minutes of killer synth solos and more top drum work - total overkill, yet everything a prog fan could wish for! Very epic and grand, before a nice transition into a floaty middle with phasing effects and a near total fade out. By this point, we're lost in a liquid word of electronic ambience, before a sudden rush back into more synthwork and heavy drums. It's very disorientating and repetitive, creating a very dizzy and overwhelming sensation. Listen to all the maddening keys cut in and out, twirling around, phasing into oblivion, the militaristic percussion leaving you exhausted. An amazing piece, lots of drama and mood here, and killer playing by the band.

Tangerine Dream fans will love `Medusa', a darkly ambient and programmed spacey synthscape. After an ethereal and majestic opening, it develops into a hypnotic, eerie, and trance-like piece. There's driving, almost tribal percussive beats that gradually build in tension throughout the heavily sequenced piece, and it's full of rapturous synth solos. What sounds like a flute near the end creates a very meditative tone. Worth grabbing the album for this one alone.

Processed sax, thick synth stabs, and furious drumming storm through `Raga In Asia Minor'! It's certainly more upbeat than the previous piece, with some faster rocking sections and slower atmospheric moments. It's also extremely repetitious, but sure to get your head nodding in approval or foot tapping along. Very catchy and easy to listen to!

Be aware, the album is available on CD, along with a download version, but bafflingly both contain only a 6 minute version of the final track, with about ten minutes cut out of the original! I have absolutely no idea what the thinking was behind this. Instead, they included a shorter remix of the title track (mostly pointless) and a bonus track `Ride' which is an another short but effective Tangerine Dream/Klaus Schulze-like sequenced piece - decent but nothing that hasn't already been done perfectly well already on the original album. As mentioned above, I do have an original vinyl copy, and within a few weeks I'll have access to a vinyl/USB convertor, so I plan on transferring the album across to MP3 so I can properly listen to and review the full length `Raga In Asia Minor'. I'll then update this review accordingly.

A short and sweet album, there's really not a bad moment on it, certainly no filler tracks. Perhaps there's not a lot subtlety or depth, but the album sounds amazing on a superficial level. Endless thick keyboards, varied drumming/percussion, inventive programming and effective sax. Some would likely complain that many of the tracks are a little repetitive, but that's missing the point! The album artwork, though a little amateur, is kind of deceptively cool, with the vinyl version revealing a lot mode hidden interesting details than on first glace.

In the end, `Colossus' is probably not a hugely important progressive album in the big scheme of things, but the players in Cybotron can be proud in the fact that they put out several high quality albums, with frequent moments of true originality and real greatness.

Three and a half stars really!

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