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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 26 2013 at 06:23

What are those lyrics about exactly? Are they about something taboo or I am misunderstanding the lyrics?



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 26 2013 at 06:32
^ I don't know the song so hard for me to tell. Will check it out though.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 01 2013 at 16:09
Originally posted by Billy Pilgrim Billy Pilgrim wrote:

Censorship is a cancer to art. i say bring on the offense, and make me feel something, and make me think about something. The fact that you're so offended simply means that Wilson and Waters did there jobs as genuine artists.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 01 2013 at 17:05
Originally posted by ArturdeLara ArturdeLara wrote:

Originally posted by Billy Pilgrim Billy Pilgrim wrote:

Censorship is a cancer to art. i say bring on the offense, and make me feel something, and make me think about something. The fact that you're so offended simply means that Wilson and Waters did there jobs as genuine artists.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 01 2013 at 18:13
Originally posted by Jonathan Jonathan wrote:

What are those lyrics about exactly? Are they about something taboo or I am misunderstanding the lyrics?

How can you be offended by something you're not sure you even understand? The meaning of the lyrics is pretty straight forward to anyone who speaks British English, I would "translate" them but I'm going to take a wild guess and say you probably still would not get why they cannot be offensive.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 02 2013 at 01:53
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by Jonathan Jonathan wrote:

What are those lyrics about exactly? Are they about something taboo or I am misunderstanding the lyrics?

How can you be offended by something you're not sure you even understand? The meaning of the lyrics is pretty straight forward to anyone who speaks British English, I would "translate" them but I'm going to take a wild guess and say you probably still would not get why they cannot be offensive.
If you "Translate" them I might understand what those lyrics mean. If it wasn't actually about anything offensive then I wouldn't be offended by it anymore.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 02 2013 at 03:55
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I don't know about Dean, but I don't mind that you are offended.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 02 2013 at 05:24
Originally posted by Jonathan Jonathan wrote:

Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by Jonathan Jonathan wrote:

What are those lyrics about exactly? Are they about something taboo or I am misunderstanding the lyrics?

How can you be offended by something you're not sure you even understand? The meaning of the lyrics is pretty straight forward to anyone who speaks British English, I would "translate" them but I'm going to take a wild guess and say you probably still would not get why they cannot be offensive.
If you "Translate" them I might understand what those lyrics mean. If it wasn't actually about anything offensive then I wouldn't be offended by it anymore.
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The subject matter can be about something offensive without you being offended by it. The Who's "Fiddle About" is about a paedophile and is sung in the first person singular, an offensive subject but no one should be offended by it. Entwistle sings the song but he is not condoning paedophilia nor is he associating himself with the character of Uncle Ernie.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 02 2013 at 05:37
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by Jonathan Jonathan wrote:

Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by Jonathan Jonathan wrote:

What are those lyrics about exactly? Are they about something taboo or I am misunderstanding the lyrics?

How can you be offended by something you're not sure you even understand? The meaning of the lyrics is pretty straight forward to anyone who speaks British English, I would "translate" them but I'm going to take a wild guess and say you probably still would not get why they cannot be offensive.
If you "Translate" them I might understand what those lyrics mean. If it wasn't actually about anything offensive then I wouldn't be offended by it anymore.
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The subject matter can be about something offensive without you being offended by it. The Who's "Fiddle About" is about a paedophile and is sung in the first person singular, an offensive subject but no one should be offended by it. Entwistle sings the song but he is not condoning paedophilia nor is he associating himself with the character of Uncle Ernie.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 02 2013 at 05:42
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by Jonathan Jonathan wrote:

Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by Jonathan Jonathan wrote:

What are those lyrics about exactly? Are they about something taboo or I am misunderstanding the lyrics?

How can you be offended by something you're not sure you even understand? The meaning of the lyrics is pretty straight forward to anyone who speaks British English, I would "translate" them but I'm going to take a wild guess and say you probably still would not get why they cannot be offensive.
If you "Translate" them I might understand what those lyrics mean. If it wasn't actually about anything offensive then I wouldn't be offended by it anymore.
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The subject matter can be about something offensive without you being offended by it. The Who's "Fiddle About" is about a paedophile and is sung in the first person singular, an offensive subject but no one should be offended by it. Entwistle sings the song but he is not condoning paedophilia nor is he associating himself with the character of Uncle Ernie.
Down with the bedclothes 
Up with the night shirt....

But you have to admit that song is quite funny LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 02 2013 at 05:50
Originally posted by ArturdeLara ArturdeLara wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by Jonathan Jonathan wrote:

Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by Jonathan Jonathan wrote:

What are those lyrics about exactly? Are they about something taboo or I am misunderstanding the lyrics?

How can you be offended by something you're not sure you even understand? The meaning of the lyrics is pretty straight forward to anyone who speaks British English, I would "translate" them but I'm going to take a wild guess and say you probably still would not get why they cannot be offensive.
If you "Translate" them I might understand what those lyrics mean. If it wasn't actually about anything offensive then I wouldn't be offended by it anymore.
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The subject matter can be about something offensive without you being offended by it. The Who's "Fiddle About" is about a paedophile and is sung in the first person singular, an offensive subject but no one should be offended by it. Entwistle sings the song but he is not condoning paedophilia nor is he associating himself with the character of Uncle Ernie.
Down with the bedclothes 
Up with the night shirt....

But you have to admit that song is quite funny LOL

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 02 2013 at 06:09
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Ermm

I don't know about Dean, but I don't mind that you are offended.
I mind that people take offense too easily and too readily. There are many things in this world that are truely offensive and people should be offended by them, being offended should be reserved for those truely offensive things so they are not trivialised. And being offended by Mackie getting his jollies with a pair of Marigold gloves is trivialising those really offensive subjects.
 
Conversely I don't hold with "freedom's a peach" banner that you have no right not to be offended - there are many things you have no right not to be offended by, and there are things that you have the right not to be offended by, and there are things that you have no right to be offended by and there are things that you have the right to be offended by.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 02 2013 at 06:13
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Ermm

I don't know about Dean, but I don't mind that you are offended.
I mind that people take offense too easily and too readily. There are many things in this world that are truely offensive and people should be offended by them, being offended should be reserved for those truely offensive things so they are not trivialised. And being offended by Mackie getting his jollies with a pair of Marigold gloves is trivialising those really offensive subjects.
 
Conversely I don't hold with "freedom's a peach" banner that you have no right not to be offended - there are many things you have no right not to be offended by, and there are things that you have the right not to be offended by, and there are things that you have no right to be offended by and there are things that you have the right to be offended by.

I can't get my head around the latter part to answer you.

I  agree with the first bit though  and what I mean't was I don't care that he is offended as he seems offended so easily.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 02 2013 at 06:29
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:


I can't get my head around the latter part to answer you.
It's just playing with the syntax (logic) of the original slogan to show that it is a false generalisation.
 
You have to understand the meaning of something to be offended by it - If I said your comment comes from ignorance I have not called you ignorant nor have I called you an ignoramus. People who are easily offended seem to be offended by the words that make up a comment rather than the meaning of the comment itself.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 02 2013 at 06:31
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:


I can't get my head around the latter part to answer you.
It's just playing with the syntax (logic) of the original slogan to show that it is a false generalisation.
 
You have to understand the meaning of something to be offended by it - If I said your comment comes from ignorance I have not called you ignorant nor have I called you an ignoramus. People who are easily offended seem to be offended by the words that make up a comment rather than the meaning of the comment itself.

Agreed. I have seen that so often.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 02 2013 at 06:57
For me, Zappa, but now I like it
Then Peart, because I think he's a bad and mildly right-wing lyricist, he has one on the atomic bomb that deeply offends me
Peter Gabriel sometimes I think he is pulling things out of his a$, not when its impassioned, but stuff like the fountain of salamacis, etc. I can never tell if he's an intellect or a simpleton, he seems to be in a mixed state.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 02 2013 at 07:00
Originally posted by RoyFairbank RoyFairbank wrote:

For me, Zappa, but now I like it
Then Peart, because I think he's a bad and mildly right-wing lyricist, he has one on the atomic bomb that deeply offends me
Peter Gabriel sometimes I think he is pulling things out of his a$, not when its impassioned, but stuff like the fountain of salamacis, etc. I can never tell if he's an intellect or a simpleton, he seems to be in a mixed state.

Which song is that?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 02 2013 at 07:05
^probably Manhatten project but I am not sure
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 02 2013 at 07:15

Yep, "It's Mahattan Project". But I'm not offended by the lyrics though since I don't think Neil was trying to condone anything bad. But I respect people that are offended by the song though.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 02 2013 at 07:16
Originally posted by Jonathan Jonathan wrote:

Yep, "It's Mahattan Project". But I'm not offended by the lyrics though since I don't think Neil was trying to condone anything bad. But I respect people that are offended by the song though.


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