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Jonathan
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Posted: February 11 2013 at 11:56 |
I mentioned it because it's Controversial and this thread is about "Prog's Most Controversial Lyricist".
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Dean
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Posted: February 11 2013 at 12:29 |
An album being a bit offensive to you isn't Controversial with a capital "C"
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Jonathan
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Posted: February 11 2013 at 15:27 |
What I'm talking about is Part Two of "The Incident" called "The Blind House".
What it's about is very controversial and it offended me.
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Dean
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Posted: February 11 2013 at 18:18 |
Jonathan wrote:
What I'm talking about is Part Two of "The Incident" called "The Blind House".
What it's about is very controversial and it offended me. |
What offends you about it? That there are child-abusing religious cults out there or that someone tells the world about them?
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Posted: February 11 2013 at 18:30 |
Anyone has a right to be offended I guess. As is offending someone.
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Kati
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Posted: February 11 2013 at 18:34 |
Snow Dog wrote:
Anyone has a right to be offended I guess. As is offending someone. |
Snow Puppy I guess it all depends on how open minded a person might be, open minded people tend to take less offense I think different factors do play a major role too I know
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Posted: February 11 2013 at 18:36 |
Kati wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
Anyone has a right to be offended I guess. As is offending someone. |
Snow Puppy I guess it all depends on how open minded a person might be, open minded people tend to take less offense I think different factors do play a major role too I know |
Your positivity and cheerfulness really brighten up this forum.
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Kati
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Posted: February 11 2013 at 18:59 |
Snow Dog wrote:
Kati wrote:
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Anyone has a right to be offended I guess. As is offending someone. |
Snow Puppy I guess it all depends on how open minded a person might be, open minded people tend to take less offense I think different factors do play a major role too I know |
Your positivity and cheerfulness really brighten up this forum. |
Awww thank you very much, Snow Dog you too make this forum and very nice to be part Again thank you (and yes you know it's coming, don't run! lol) awwww hugs
Edited by Kati - February 11 2013 at 19:01
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Posted: February 11 2013 at 19:11 |
^OKay, back off now.
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Jonathan
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Posted: February 11 2013 at 20:17 |
Dean wrote:
Jonathan wrote:
What I'm talking about is Part Two of "The Incident" called "The Blind House".
What it's about is very controversial and it offended me. |
What offends you about it? That there are child-abusing religious cults out there or that someone tells the world about them? |
I know Steven Wilson has said that he doesn't condone those kind of things but I feel that that is too strong a subject matter to write about.
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Billy Pilgrim
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Posted: February 11 2013 at 21:05 |
Censorship is a cancer to art. i say bring on the offense, and make me feel something, and make me think about something. The fact that you're so offended simply means that Wilson and Waters did there jobs as genuine artists.
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Posted: February 11 2013 at 23:13 |
Jonathan wrote:
Dean wrote:
Jonathan wrote:
What I'm talking about is Part Two of "The Incident" called "The Blind House".
What it's about is very controversial and it offended me. |
What offends you about it? That there are child-abusing religious cults out there or that someone tells the world about them? | I know Steven Wilson has said that he doesn't condone those kind of things but I feel that that is too strong a subject matter to write about. |
Someone has to write about them. If no one exposes the works of darkness, then who will fight them? You're entitled to choose what music you do and don't want to listen to (and I quite understand not being fond of that particular song; even though I'm not familiar with it, the subject matter as described here doesn't exactly sound pleasant). But I admire any artist who has the courage to stand up and say something about the evil in this world.
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Jonathan
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Posted: February 15 2013 at 19:47 |
These are the lyrics from "The Blind House" that offended me.
"Faith is in your soul But in these walls Hormones stall Dogs will crawl The vices and the doubt We resist All this s**t So kneel submit
Free love Free love Feel love in all my sisters"
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Dean
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Posted: February 15 2013 at 20:08 |
Jonathan wrote:
These are the lyrics from "The Blind House" that offended me.
"Faith is in your soul But in these walls Hormones stall Dogs will crawl The vices and the doubt We resist All this s**t So kneel submit
Free love Free love Feel love in all my sisters"
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What is your interpretation of those lyrics that offends you?
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Jonathan
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Posted: February 15 2013 at 20:37 |
Dean wrote:
Jonathan wrote:
These are the lyrics from "The Blind House" that offended me.
"Faith is in your soul But in these walls Hormones stall Dogs will crawl The vices and the doubt We resist All this s**t So kneel submit
Free love Free love Feel love in all my sisters"
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What is your interpretation of those lyrics that offends you? |
I'm pretty sure that these lyrics condone sexual abuse. That is why it offends me. But I admit there is chance that I could be misunderstanding what the lyrics mean.
If the latter is the case, Then what are the lyrics trying to say?
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Dean
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Posted: February 16 2013 at 03:29 |
Jonathan wrote:
Dean wrote:
Jonathan wrote:
These are the lyrics from "The Blind House" that offended me.
"Faith is in your soul But in these walls Hormones stall Dogs will crawl The vices and the doubt We resist All this s**t So kneel submit
Free love Free love Feel love in all my sisters"
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What is your interpretation of those lyrics that offends you? | I'm pretty sure that these lyrics condone sexual abuse. That is why it offends me. But I admit there is chance that I could be misunderstanding what the lyrics mean.
If the latter is the case, Then what are the lyrics trying to say? |
The lyrics are about the sexual abuse of young girls by religious cults - they are relating the story of the "Incident" not condoning it. Just because a lyric refers to a particular act it does not mean that they are condoning that act. If a character in a Shakespeare play condones the murder of someone it does not mean that Shakespeare condoned that murder.
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Posted: February 16 2013 at 04:27 |
^ the Ozzy Syndrome
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moshkito
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Posted: February 18 2013 at 21:33 |
Dean wrote:
Jonathan wrote:
What I'm talking about is Part Two of "The Incident" called "The Blind House".
What it's about is very controversial and it offended me. |
What offends you about it? That there are child-abusing religious cults out there or that someone tells the world about them? |
I still think that the majority of bad and controversial lyricists are the ones that never play or create an album of music, and then SING it ... very 20th/21st century thing with all the blogs, clogs, and troggs and boards, wouldn't you say, Dean?
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Jonathan
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Posted: February 26 2013 at 06:01 |
I find these lyrics from "The Planets" by Flaming Youth to be controversial.
"Mackie's gone on rubber, while our Debbie digs her brother And their Des is doing well on the game"
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Posted: February 26 2013 at 06:14 |
Good for you.
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