stop the "Neo" prog label ?

Ivan_Melgar_M wrote: Snow Dog wrote: ^They always wanted success and money from the very beginning. But I don;t ubnderstand why it is lazy. Besides Steve didn't call people who dislike it intellectually lazy, he called that to people who continually slam it. It gets boring to read too Ha ha Invisible Cruth is crap..ha ha. I believe it's lazy, because being capable musicians, they ceased to search for quality and went for easy money. Lately it seems offensive to love Prog, people call Prog lovers by many names, from arrogant, self indulgent to Prog snobs, and seem to forget we are here because our common love for Prog. But at the end, allow people to voice their opinions about the album, this is not personal, honestly i prefer using it as a Frisbee than listening it. Iván

Edited by Snow Dog - January 27 2013 at 10:37

Snow Dog wrote: I find most Prog fans insufferable most of  the time.

Edited by Ivan_Melgar_M - January 27 2013 at 10:42

Snow Dog wrote: ^Thank you for allowing me the option.

Ivan_Melgar_M wrote: Snow Dog wrote: ^Thank you for allowing me the option. I only ask to be allowed the same option

I am not sure Genesis were ever in search of any elusive 'musical quality' in the sense Ivan seems to suggest.   Even when their music was more complex and ambitious, that was never the point of their music and it was always more accessible than ELP or KC, even Yes or JT at times.   I personally do not regard Invisible Touch as a masterpiece nor do I consider pop Genesis particularly masterful....mainly, I find Collins's singing too dull for me to dig that kind of music.   But I do have to point out that it's not as if they transformed overnight from Dave Brubeck to Debbie Gibson.   Even IT is still proper songs, not just a collection of dance beats.  Only the 'clothes' are distinctly 80s.  So what?  Fans have no monopoly on what sounds an artist can use. 

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Edited by Snow Dog - January 27 2013 at 10:59

Snow Dog wrote: Iff people don't like Invisible Touch I have no problem with that. Can I make that clear i am npt forcing anyone to like it?

rogerthat wrote: If Tonight, Tonight was on a Peter Gabriel album, then watch the ratings on the website shoot through the roof.

Edited by Ivan_Melgar_M - January 27 2013 at 10:55

*sigh* arguing with Zealots is kind of like swimming in Macaroni and Cheese.  It's a lot of effort for almost no reward and you still end up covered in goo.

Roland113 wrote: *sigh* arguing with Zealots is kind of like swimming in Macaroni and Cheese.  It's a lot of effort for almost no reward and you still end up covered in goo. Ivan,  I reject your ability to speak for my generation. It is absolutely your right to hate the album, I don't dispute your hatred of it.  As a lawyer though, I would expect you to not simply discount eye witness accounts of an event or an era.  Seriously man, I'm not lying to you, it had an influence on people that are ten years younger. With that being said, I'm done arguing the point.

Edited by Ivan_Melgar_M - January 27 2013 at 10:59