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Fox On The Rocks
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Posted: January 26 2013 at 20:43 |
Aw yeah? What bands were you into? You a a fan of Protest The Hero? Edited by Fox On The Rocks - January 26 2013 at 20:44 |
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Sumdeus
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Posted: January 26 2013 at 20:14 |
I still have to disagree. I used to be incredibly into extreme metal and death metal and tech death in specific and I just find Necrophagist as run-of-the-mill as it gets.
Even in that small niche of flashy weedly-weedly tech death there's a lot more progressive stuff around and there's also the case of things like Atheist, who were playing technical and rather progressive death metal a good decade before anything like Necrophagist was around |
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Fox On The Rocks
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Posted: January 26 2013 at 20:11 |
Sort of Mathcore pioneers - big influence on Dillinger for sure. Man, I wish these guys were still around. Great, great band. Another great band that's sadly disbanded. |
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progger7
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Posted: January 26 2013 at 20:08 |
Gojira, Meshuggah, Opeth and Blotted Science are examples of Progressive (Death) Metal bands. Necrophagist is NOT. especially when you compare them to the bands I mentioned.
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Fox On The Rocks
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Posted: January 26 2013 at 20:00 |
No of course not, but wouldn't you say the technicality of musicianship though, is rather unique compared to most modern metal, and specifically death metal bands? I mean, it's of course in the same vulgar style as a lot of the bands within the field, but they're belting out riffs and solos I'd hear in BTBAM's music, or Cynic's for that matter - quite a bit more intricate, and creative. Yes, within their own genre, they're a pretty typical sounding band, but a representative band for sure though. Hey, I just thought I'd post them just to give a glimpse for someone who hasn't, but anybody that's into the more technical side of metal, would of course know them. Dude, I respect your opinion and perspective, and I see where you're coming from, and I actually mostly agree with you, but I think they have a lot of experimental qualities for metal that would deem them qualified for some sort of Progressive status. |
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progger7
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Posted: January 26 2013 at 19:50 |
whoops ignore this one. just noticed you said not like symphony X. lol Edited by progger7 - January 26 2013 at 20:14 |
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progger7
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Posted: January 26 2013 at 19:48 |
Edited by progger7 - January 26 2013 at 19:49 |
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Sumdeus
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Posted: January 26 2013 at 19:48 |
ooh on that note i just remembered this
I definitely consider this progressive (check all three parts since it got split up on youtube), very cool atmospheric black metal which experiments outside of the black metal realm yet still stays true to the sound and feel of the genre as opposed to some other bands who tend to take the black metal aesthetics of lo-fi distorted guitars, shrieked vocals, and pummeling drumming and just play whatever music they want and call it "progressive black metal" also this One of my favorites when it comes to prog metal. Stunning Italian black/doom metal Edited by Sumdeus - January 26 2013 at 19:51 |
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sleeper
Prog Reviewer Joined: October 09 2005 Location: Entropia Status: Offline Points: 16449 |
Posted: January 26 2013 at 19:43 |
How are you with black/doom/post metal?
Those in bold I highly recommend Akphaezya Aghora maybe, they're related to Cynic I'd be surprised if you haven't tried them already but Between the Buried and Me are a must. Burst, particularly the last album Lazarus Bird Canvas Solaris Circle Takes the Square Diabolical Masquerade Drawn Edge of Sanity Ellipsis Ephel Dueth Giant Squid Gojira Gordian Knot Grayceon hAND Ihsahn Intronaut Leprous Lux Occulta Madder Mortem No Made Sense The Pax Cecilia Peccatum Protest the Hero Ram-Zet Rolo Tomassi Sculptured Sikth Thence To-Mera Tusk Virus Yakuza |
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Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005
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Sumdeus
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Posted: January 26 2013 at 19:16 |
so if a band has technical playing you consider them progressive? i just don't see how Necrophagist are progressive in any sense. They play extremely cliche and predictable technical death metal. I guess it might seem unconventional compared to music that's not technical or related to death metal but in the death metal spectrum Necrophagist are very safe and typical
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Fox On The Rocks
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Posted: January 26 2013 at 18:59 |
What's your opinion on them Sumdeus?
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Fox On The Rocks
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Posted: January 26 2013 at 18:58 |
Well, I know they're not in the database here, but man, there are tons of bands of the top of my head that should rightfully be here, but aren't deemed "Progressive" by popular conventions and perspective, or are at least not Genesis and Yes rip-offs. Necrophagist, well in my opinion at least, are very unconventional in the context of their musicianship. I mean, their approach and composition is rather the same and unvaried for a so called "Progressive group", but dude, those guys can PLAY. That's got to at least count for some sort of unique attribute when compared to music outside of a Progressive or Experimental domain, you know? Maybe they're not Prog Meta per se, but anybody that's a fan of the style and musicianship, would love these guys. |
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zravkapt
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Posted: January 26 2013 at 18:55 |
- I liked that Kobong track; need to check their albums out. - That Ketha song sounded a little too much like Meshuggah (whom I can take in small doses but am not a huge fan of). - The Neuma track was interesting. Sounds like a modified sax (or trumpet?) in there. - The Thordendal track was alright, not really what I'm looking for though. - I'm vaguely familiar with Praxis. They are not listed on PA but another Praxis from Mexico is in Eclectic Prog. I do need to check them out more as I am a fan of a lot of the musicians who collaborate on that project. |
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Sumdeus
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Posted: January 26 2013 at 18:47 |
how in the world are Necrophagist progressive music in the slightest? I would argue they are the antithesis of progressive music. As soon as you turn on any song you know exactly where it's going - nowhere.
Edited by Sumdeus - January 26 2013 at 18:48 |
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Fox On The Rocks
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Posted: January 26 2013 at 18:43 |
You've most likely heard of these guys before, if not:
Some of the weirder Prog Metal out there - not really Tech, more laced with Avant and Industrial elements. Kind of remind me on Nine Inch Nails in a way. Not too big of a fan, but still a great band. They did a killer Schizoid cover though. Also: Okay, we all know these guys, but I still had to post them. THOSE RIFFS. |
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Triceratopsoil
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Posted: January 26 2013 at 17:44 |
Listened to Vaura yet?
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lucas
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Posted: January 26 2013 at 17:25 |
3 Polish bands with a Meshuggah influence :
and Meshuggah's guitarist : Also the band Praxis : Edited by lucas - January 26 2013 at 17:27 |
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zravkapt
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Posted: January 26 2013 at 17:07 |
First of all, I have to say I already know lots of prog metal/post metal/tech metal listed on PA, but I'm looking for some I'm not familiar with. Without listing all the bands I know/like, I will say of the three subs I enjoy 'Progressive Metal' the least and 'Tech/Extreme Prog Metal' the most. So, if anyone suggests something I already know I will mention that.
I'm looking for something that sounds similar to this: ...but sounds nothing like this: |
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