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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 09 2013 at 05:03
Interesting. Perhaps too much freedom and power was a negative influence rather than a positive.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 09 2013 at 06:46
Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Was on the Trilogy tour in 1972 when he played Mellotron on Abaddons Bolero. Don't think it lasted more than a few gigs as it kept breaking down!
Indeed (1973 according to Keith below), here a couple of pics showing the white M400, and Keith's recollection of the story (PlanetMellotron has a slightly different one which sounds less reliable).

"Carl wore an earphone, and played the drum in synch with a click on the backing tape. Greg played the prerecorded chords on the Mellotron. The trouble arose after playing "Abaddon's Bolero" about 4 times live - the tape went bad and the sound stopped going to Carl's earphone. Carl continued to play without his earphone, but at the climax, the sound from the backing tape was lost, and then it was only the three of us playing. We decided to stop using it after that. It was too risky and also Carl did not like playing to a backing tape. This happened in Germany in 1973."






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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 09 2013 at 06:51
I'm not sure if what we see in this one is also the edge of the Tron but we see the funny Tarkus creature which head looked more like a sweet kangaroo than a warrior armadillo LOL




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 09 2013 at 07:16
For the record this is Keith's version in PlanetMellotron. The dubious point is that "Greg could play the Tron with pedals", this seems not to have been the case.
At any rate it clarifies that what broke down was the Revox playing the backing tape, not the Tron itself.

"After we recorded Trilogy (1972), we wanted to perform the album on stage, but Abaddon's Bolero was a hugely complex track with loads of Moog synthesizer overdubs and it was quite impossible to play it live. So we sampled complete phrases off the 16-track onto a Mellotron, which Greg could play using bass pedals. This still wasn't enough, so we also hooked up a Revox tape recorder and arranged the track around that. Unfortunately, the second time we tried it in front of an audience, the Revox ground to a halt and so did Carl, Greg and myself. We ended up having a huge argument backstage, the result of which was that we never attempted the Bolero again. I would have trashed the Mellotron, but I gave it to Greg instead. I've no idea where it is now."

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 09 2013 at 14:31
Originally posted by DiamondDog DiamondDog wrote:

Interesting. Perhaps too much freedom and power was a negative influence rather than a positive.
Just out of interest what do you regard as Lake's best song?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 09 2013 at 14:35
Great pics and info Gerinski. I'de never seen a picture of the Tarkus they used on stage before. It looks ridiculously amateurish like some school project gone wrongLOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 09 2013 at 16:05
Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Great pics and info Gerinski. I'de never seen a picture of the Tarkus they used on stage before. It looks ridiculously amateurish like some school project gone wrongLOL

I think they themselves realised it and at some point they got an improved version, with more menacing eyes, ears etc and it looked better.
The thing actually released smoke and fired a charge of polystyrene snow, here a couple more pics, the creature smoking, being repaired and an article about it.









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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 09 2013 at 17:55
Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Originally posted by DiamondDog DiamondDog wrote:

Interesting. Perhaps too much freedom and power was a negative influence rather than a positive.
Just out of interest what do you regard as Lake's best song?

Strangely enough, that's part of the problem; for me, there is no best song; all we get are glimpses of possibilities, but I feel there is/was always something in there struggling to get out. I always regarded the ELP exercise as a wasted opportunity in that way, even though I'm a fan of the band's best work.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 10 2013 at 01:44
Originally posted by Gerinski Gerinski wrote:

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Great pics and info Gerinski. I'de never seen a picture of the Tarkus they used on stage before. It looks ridiculously amateurish like some school project gone wrongLOL

I think they themselves realised it and at some point they got an improved version, with more menacing eyes, ears etc and it looked better.
The thing actually released smoke and fired a charge of polystyrene snow, here a couple more pics, the creature smoking, being repaired and an article about it.







Thats much better
 
and did you read the last line of that article? HilariousLOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 10 2013 at 06:09
Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

 
and did you read the last line of that article? HilariousLOL
Indeed, what do we have then to think about their debut's cover LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 16 2013 at 09:38
Greg Lake achieved a lot, but somehow feel not as much as he should have.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 19 2013 at 04:49
Originally posted by JeanFrame JeanFrame wrote:

Greg Lake achieved a lot, but somehow feel not as much as he should have.
presumably because he was playing second fiddle to a couple of 'show offs' I guess?
 
Greg is undoubtedly an excellent musician although I'm not sure what else he should have achieved?
 
Played in the seminal progressive rock band
Played in the most successful rock supergroup
Played live with an orchestra
Has one of the most enduring and best Christmas records
Recorded two solo albums with the then best guitarist on the planet
Did that massive world televised concert with Asia
 
Also his best songs have been recorded and released either with ELP or as a soloist.
 
He's has a good career I feel.
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