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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 30 2012 at 19:52
this isn't just about KC though, this is about the way he presents himself. I could care less if someone doesn't dig KC, but what I do care about is if someone acts like they are inherently superior because they don't dig KC, or that the people who dig KC do so because they don't "have the balls", rather than because they just have a different opinion.

anyways you seem set on ignoring the real problem and insisting that this is a matter of "we don't like him because he doesn't like KC" so I'm gonna refrain from saying anything more about progmetaller and this whole business.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 30 2012 at 19:59
Originally posted by Sumdeus Sumdeus wrote:

this isn't just about KC though, this is about the way he presents himself. I could care less if someone doesn't dig KC, but what I do care about is if someone acts like they are inherently superior because they don't dig KC, or that the people who dig KC do so because they don't "have the balls", rather than because they just have a different opinion.



It was not an unprovoked comment.  I will repeat that n number of times if I have to.   I haven't said it is acceptable for him to say that people don't have the balls to say they don't like KC (speaking of which you misquoted him above...he only said to the effect that such opinions would hurt fans of KC like Davenkirq) because it's too generalized.  But it was not his first comment on the thread and I cannot assume that he would have said so without getting provoked into a needless confrontation. 

There are people who write that DT are pretentious or showboats and such so why do we tell Geoff that he is overreacting and then condemn progmetaller by calling him arrogant and condescending for saying something similar (as in harsh) about a KC album?  

Do you or you don't accept that progmetaller had made no further comment on the thread at the point where Davenkirq said that?  If you do, then please explain how such a reaction is justifiable to you. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 30 2012 at 20:01
I don't want him muzzled, I just find him irritating and annoying, I just thought I'd let him know, he has the right to express his opinion, so do we.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 30 2012 at 20:03
Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

I don't want him muzzled, I just find him irritating and annoying, I just thought I'd let him know, he has the right to express his opinion, so do we.

 
Yeah....I also said he is tiresome and close minded so I have no problem with that.  LOL  But if we are going to call for warnings just because somebody is irritating, then that is not a very, ahem, progressive attitude to have.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 30 2012 at 22:04
Originally posted by Horizons Horizons wrote:

He is a troll, and you guys are giving him quite the buffet.
Been thinking about that myself, though I wasn't 100% sure of that.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 30 2012 at 22:07
Although Yes is my least preferred of the 3 groups, gonna have to go with The Yes Album here.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 31 2012 at 15:33
Originally posted by Dayvenkirq Dayvenkirq wrote:

Originally posted by Horizons Horizons wrote:

He is a troll, and you guys are giving him quite the buffet.
Been thinking about that myself, though I wasn't 100% sure of that.

I'm no troll I'm simply giving my own opinions on these certain albums. I even say that some songs on Lizard are great. Is that trolling????
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 31 2012 at 15:34
Originally posted by rogerthat rogerthat wrote:

Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

I don't want him muzzled, I just find him irritating and annoying, I just thought I'd let him know, he has the right to express his opinion, so do we.

 
Yeah....I also said he is tiresome and close minded so I have no problem with that.  LOL  But if we are going to call for warnings just because somebody is irritating, then that is not a very, ahem, progressive attitude to have.

close minded???? am IShockedShocked
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 31 2012 at 15:43
Originally posted by rogerthat rogerthat wrote:

Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

I don't want him muzzled, I just find him irritating and annoying, I just thought I'd let him know, he has the right to express his opinion, so do we.

 
Yeah....I also said he is tiresome and close minded so I have no problem with that.  LOL  But if we are going to call for warnings just because somebody is irritating, then that is not a very, ahem, progressive attitude to have.

So let me get it straight is it the same thing to be close-minded and not like or prefer something???
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 31 2012 at 15:55
Originally posted by Dayvenkirq Dayvenkirq wrote:

Originally posted by Horizons Horizons wrote:

He is a troll, and you guys are giving him quite the buffet.
Been thinking about that myself, though I wasn't 100% sure of that.

The fact that he types


likes this!!!!!!???WinkSleepyShockedShockedShockedShocked
xDD!!! 


Is enough for me to ignore him.
Crushed like a rose in the riverflow.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 31 2012 at 16:12
Originally posted by Horizons Horizons wrote:

Originally posted by Dayvenkirq Dayvenkirq wrote:

Originally posted by Horizons Horizons wrote:

He is a troll, and you guys are giving him quite the buffet.
Been thinking about that myself, though I wasn't 100% sure of that.

The fact that he types


likes this!!!!!!???WinkSleepyShockedShockedShockedShocked
xDD!!! 


Is enough for me to ignore him.

I type with the stupid little faces(they are there for a reason why not use them) to show how I feel, I'm shocked obviously that you guys called me a troll and that I'm close minded. Just because an artist doesn't appeal to me doesn't really give you the right to call me close minded
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 31 2012 at 16:12
Originally posted by ProgMetaller2112 ProgMetaller2112 wrote:


Originally posted by Dayvenkirq Dayvenkirq wrote:


Originally posted by Horizons Horizons wrote:

He is a troll, and you guys are giving him quite the buffet.
Been thinking about that myself, though I wasn't 100% sure of that.

I'm no troll I'm simply giving my own opinions on these certain albums. I even say that some songs on Lizard are great. Is that trolling????
You are missing the point. Rubbing in your opinion with four threads and mocking another person that he smokes pot already in my opinion lol constitutes trolling lol.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 31 2012 at 16:14
Originally posted by ProgMetaller2112 ProgMetaller2112 wrote:


Originally posted by Horizons Horizons wrote:


Originally posted by Dayvenkirq Dayvenkirq wrote:


Originally posted by Horizons Horizons wrote:

He is a troll, and you guys are giving him quite the buffet.
Been thinking about that myself, though I wasn't 100% sure of that.

The fact that he types
likes this!!!!!!???WinkSleepyShockedShockedShockedShocked
xDD!!! 
Is enough for me to ignore him.

I type with the stupid little faces(they are there for a reason why not use them) to show how I feel, I'm shocked obviously that you guys called me a troll and that I'm close minded. Just because an artist doesn't appeal to me doesn't really give you the right to call me close minded
Calling KC an average band compared to Yes and Genesis - that's quite a giveaway.

Edited by Dayvenkirq - December 31 2012 at 16:16
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 31 2012 at 16:16
Originally posted by Dayvenkirq Dayvenkirq wrote:

Originally posted by ProgMetaller2112 ProgMetaller2112 wrote:


Originally posted by Dayvenkirq Dayvenkirq wrote:


Originally posted by Horizons Horizons wrote:

He is a troll, and you guys are giving him quite the buffet.
Been thinking about that myself, though I wasn't 100% sure of that.

I'm no troll I'm simply giving my own opinions on these certain albums. I even say that some songs on Lizard are great. Is that trolling????
You are missing the point. Rubbing in your opinion with four threads and mocking another person that he smokes pot already in my opinion lol constitutes trolling lol.

what are you talking about I never mocked anyone about smoking pot??? They can do whatever they feel like doing
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 31 2012 at 16:17
Originally posted by Dayvenkirq Dayvenkirq wrote:

^ Calling KC an average band compared to Yes and Genesis - that's quite a giveaway.

well it's my opinion and you should "get over it", you really are a fanboy
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 31 2012 at 16:18
^ OK, I feel like this conversation is bound to be in a circle. Meeting adjourned.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 31 2012 at 16:19
Originally posted by ProgMetaller2112 ProgMetaller2112 wrote:

Originally posted by Dayvenkirq Dayvenkirq wrote:

Originally posted by ProgMetaller2112 ProgMetaller2112 wrote:


Originally posted by Dayvenkirq Dayvenkirq wrote:


Originally posted by Horizons Horizons wrote:

He is a troll, and you guys are giving him quite the buffet.
Been thinking about that myself, though I wasn't 100% sure of that.

I'm no troll I'm simply giving my own opinions on these certain albums. I even say that some songs on Lizard are great. Is that trolling????
You are missing the point. Rubbing in your opinion with four threads and mocking another person that he smokes pot already in my opinion lol constitutes trolling lol.

what are you talking about I never mocked anyone about smoking pot??? They can do whatever they feel like doing

the smoking hash part was simply a way to interpret that I think he is losing his mind that's it
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 31 2012 at 16:24
^ Then say that he is losing his mind. No need to insult pot smokers this way, even if you don't mean to.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 31 2012 at 16:26
Originally posted by ProgMetaller2112 ProgMetaller2112 wrote:


Originally posted by Dayvenkirq Dayvenkirq wrote:

^ Calling KC an average band compared to Yes and Genesis - that's quite a giveaway.

well it's my opinion and you should "get over it", you really are a fanboy
So is it your opinion that KC did not start the prog movement?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 31 2012 at 16:29
Originally posted by Dayvenkirq Dayvenkirq wrote:

^ Then say that he is losing his mind. No need to insult pot smokers this way, even if you don't mean to.

I'm not insulting any pot smokers, bet they don't even know that I'm talking about them


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