The 2012 NFL thread

God damn it!
Ugghh....well it was a good game. Giants were the better overall team, could've won fairly easily but shot themselves too many times.
WAY conservative on critical plays, failing to convert on big plays, and the penalties! Sheesh...a 3rd and 10 converted and taken away by a hold. Jesus Christ. In a tight game you can't commit that many penalties.
The Tynes missed FG as well.

f**k. Another very possible win they cost themselves. Time for angry sleep

Well...theres that.

JJLehto wrote: God damn it! Ugghh....well it was a good game. Giants were the better overall team, could've won fairly easily but shot themselves too many times.

Yeah I used to think that made sense, but I can't justify it anymore. You're only how you play. If you shoot yourself in the foot, then that's a flaw in your team. Redskins were better.

I still think the Giants will take the division but they certainly aren't giving themselves breathing room, and have some tough teams coming up.  I actually still think they'll win the NFC championship as well.

Something good to read about.

(I still hope he plays poorly this week since I'm up against him!) 

Equality 7-2521 wrote: JJLehto wrote: God damn it! Ugghh....well it was a good game. Giants were the better overall team, could've won fairly easily but shot themselves too many times. Yeah I used to think that made sense, but I can't justify it anymore. You're only how you play. If you shoot yourself in the foot, then that's a flaw in your team. Redskins were better.

Oh they deserved to win, and of course they were better. I still think the Giants played better overall, remember....7 of the Skins points came from that fumble play. It was 100% legit and sh*t happens, but still that was a whacky play. I guess it's semantics debating over "true skill" but yeah, in the end the better team won. I also love the new school of the NFL is really the old school. All this running, with QB options, 3 or 4 in the backfield going all over the place...its like the 40s!

Besides mistakes...gah the play calling! How the hell does Gilbride get so aggressive but then throw it so short of third downs. I mean there was no gap between the wideouts and defense to make anything happen. At least the run game was really good and Eli seems to have ironed out the slump.


Edited by JJLehto - December 04 2012 at 20:57

I actually thought Peyton's MVPs were justified and not just drooling over him. The Colts were very dependent on him, especially that lame defense that only worked with a lead...and the team got worse over the years. By the end he was dragging them to success. Remember how we all said they'd have 4 wins without him? They only managed 2!


But yeah the Broncos are a good team, and he's just performing as we'd expect. Im not big into awards but they're always fun. Right now comeback has to be Peterson. He's in the running for MVP as well, (too soon to call that one).
My rookie of the year is leaning towards Luck, for how much he has to do, but RG3 is good and Russell Wilson is a stud!

If I feel nerdy enough, and have time, I may make my personal pro bowl again. Better than the crappy ones but I can't really judge o lines or the secondaries. I dont have THAT much time

Not sure if you're just pointing that out or mocking me but yeah, that's a very fair point. Luck could be seriously considered in the running for MVP
Aren't we all a bit shocked? I know I am, some success was expected but I never thought this much.
And playoffs? PLAYOFFS!? I would've laughed if you said they'd be in the hunt.

And nothing against RG3 and Wilson, but they are in very managed systems. Luck is averaging 42 attempts a game, on pace for 670... or third all time! Point being they are asking a ton of that kid, depending how the Colts finish and he plays, I'd say he's a contenda!


Edited by JJLehto - December 05 2012 at 22:11

You seem to have ignored my later posts where I already answered the question am I worried now:
Nah not really.
I won't go broken record but we'll see what RG3 does (or what the team lets him do). If he starts to develop then I'm pretty scared. If they keep with the college offense, well that will fade eventually and RG3 becomes another phenom bust. Sorry for the reality check

Uh, no offense to your Saints bud but that's not really earth shattering
If I had to guess, I'd say....7% of Giants fans expect a win. Many may say we have a chance (naturally) but few expect a win, and I'm in that group. Nothing about our team adds up to beating the Saints. And yeah, of course you can beat Baltimore, they are borderline terrible.
Oh and we were the lesser team, but you do realize a made FG (which Tynes very often makes) = a Skins loss? Or if that fumble didn't bounce in a lucky way (it happens I know) maybe you have 4, or 7 less points? I mean sheesh, be happy and proud RG3 is already in the HoF and the Skins have 7 SBs right?


Edited by JJLehto - December 06 2012 at 19:14

heh...soo despite leading them on 2 successful drives that spared life into the Jets....Greg McElroy is back to the #3 man...behind Sanchez who no one has faith in, and Tebow who was shredded by a dozen Jets in the paper....brilliant as always gang green.

Rooting for the Bengals and Ravens big time, as well as the Eagles over the Buccs (wanna see every potential wild card team lose). Ugh.....Giants. You just have to put yourself in these loony situations.
Anyway its in the 40s and rainy, I doubt this will impact Brees and co much, especially with our crap defense, but they are out of their comfy dome, any possible advantage is needed. I really dread this N'orlans game