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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 29 2012 at 11:44
If you want to be all middle class and secure a job and housing before you move, then sure it's difficult and there are hidden costs. I was just pointing out that if you really want to relocate, right now, leaving every thing behind, you can. It would be even easier if we didn't have so many labor regulations. You always see in TV and movies someone drifting into town and immediately getting a job waiting tables, no questions asked. It's a shame that's not possible today with social security, minimum wage, and all other kinds of bureaucracy.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 29 2012 at 14:47
Whatever class you are, most people would want to have a iob and house secure before moving. Only really young people or people with no family or nothing to lose, or really, really adventurous, would move without some sort of security. And in that case wealth would help quite a lot.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 29 2012 at 14:59
Most people would want to have a roast beef dinner too, but it doesn't mean that couldn't do without one if necessary.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 29 2012 at 15:07
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 29 2012 at 15:11
Originally posted by thellama73 thellama73 wrote:

Most people would want to have a roast beef dinner too, but it doesn't mean that couldn't do without one if necessary.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 29 2012 at 15:20
Originally posted by thellama73 thellama73 wrote:

Most people would want to have a roast beef dinner too, but it doesn't mean that couldn't do without one if necessary.

Even I will call out how terrible this analogy is. And how reality still shows moving when poor is much more difficult than moving when rich. Again, I side with you on most things but this time TheDoctor is right, yes
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 29 2012 at 16:30
Originally posted by thellama73 thellama73 wrote:

If you want to be all middle class and secure a job and housing before you move, then sure it's difficult and there are hidden costs. I was just pointing out that if you really want to relocate, right now, leaving every thing behind, you can. It would be even easier if we didn't have so many labor regulations. You always see in TV and movies someone drifting into town and immediately getting a job waiting tables, no questions asked. It's a shame that's not possible today with social security, minimum wage, and all other kinds of bureaucracy.

Relocating on a whim is kinda only an option if you're a survivalist nutjob and want to drag your family through hell.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 29 2012 at 20:21
Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

Originally posted by thellama73 thellama73 wrote:

Most people would want to have a roast beef dinner too, but it doesn't mean that couldn't do without one if necessary.

Even I will call out how terrible this analogy is. And how reality still shows moving when poor is much more difficult than moving when rich. Again, I side with you on most things but this time TheDoctor is right, yes


I assumed we were talking about the truly poor, as in the homeless. It is easy for them to relocate. They have nothing to take with them, and no need to secure residence or job. All they have to do is scrape together enough money for a bus ticket and voila, move accomplished.

My overarching point was that it annoys me the way people complain about things being impossible when they are merely inconvenient. People who say "I hate living in Texas, but I can't move" are really saying "I hate living in Texas, but not enough to do something about it, not as much as the first immigrants to America hated living in Europe, not enough to simply get in my car and leave." If you want to leave, leave. If you don't want to leave, quit yer whining.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 30 2012 at 16:22
Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 30 2012 at 18:07
Originally posted by thellama73 thellama73 wrote:

Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

Originally posted by thellama73 thellama73 wrote:

Most people would want to have a roast beef dinner too, but it doesn't mean that couldn't do without one if necessary.

Even I will call out how terrible this analogy is. And how reality still shows moving when poor is much more difficult than moving when rich. Again, I side with you on most things but this time TheDoctor is right, yes


I assumed we were talking about the truly poor, as in the homeless. It is easy for them to relocate. They have nothing to take with them, and no need to secure residence or job. All they have to do is scrape together enough money for a bus ticket and voila, move accomplished.

My overarching point was that it annoys me the way people complain about things being impossible when they are merely inconvenient. People who say "I hate living in Texas, but I can't move" are really saying "I hate living in Texas, but not enough to do something about it, not as much as the first immigrants to America hated living in Europe, not enough to simply get in my car and leave." If you want to leave, leave. If you don't want to leave, quit yer whining.


I was talking about me, obviously, as we were discussing me wanting to move from Texas.  I'm not exactly poor.  Nowhere near wealthy either.  And at least for today, not homeless.  I want to leave, but also would like to continue my middle class existence.  I'm not willing to go homeless to get out of this state.  At least not yet. 
I can understand your anger at me, but what did the horse I rode in on ever do to you?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 08 2012 at 09:39
Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 08 2012 at 11:16
One sign that Slarti is back: lots of links and quotes.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 10 2012 at 16:58


Don't forget pics, too. Wink


Big Big Train summoned me back:

Where did you come from
where will you go to?
Don't go away.



Edited by Slartibartfast - December 10 2012 at 17:00
Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 10 2012 at 17:22
I am not particularly enamored with WalMart for a number of reasons, but I think blaming them for what someone else did or failed to do is not terribly productive.   

WalMart is not an owner of this sweatshop; it's a retailer who buys and re-sells goods. I do believe that WalMart, as any large company, has some kind of a Code of Conduct for its suppliers. But, understand that the factory in question wasn't even directly contracted to WalMart, in which case WalMart couldn't have enforced their Vendors' Code of Conduct. 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 10 2012 at 17:32
I think it's more than about blaming a company, it's about holding a company responsible.  If you want to be an apologist for bad company behavior, enjoy yourself.


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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 10 2012 at 17:46
Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

 If you want to be an apologist for bad company behavior, enjoy yourself.

Sorry, not stooping to this level of argument. A thoughtful discussion would be great, though. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 10 2012 at 17:55
I like to imagine that all of Slarti's news just comes from pictures with captions.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 10 2012 at 18:52
Slarti brings out the worst in us...



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 10 2012 at 19:00
Where can I get a row of pictures of dead guys?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 10 2012 at 19:02
Originally posted by timothy leary timothy leary wrote:

Where can I get a row of pictures of dead guys?
Well the state has given the world plenty of those just type communism facism socialism or nationalsocialism.
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