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cstack3
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Posted: October 17 2012 at 21:04 | |||
I enjoy punk and was a minor part of the rising punk scene in Chicago in the late 1970's. I witnessed brilliant experiments in melding high-energy prog solo guitar with punk from bands such as the Corrosives. You had to be there. David Bowie used to appear at our clubs to check out the acts.
Anyway, Robert Fripp's first experiment in the punk realm, "Exposure," would have been my first choice.
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Mellotron Storm
Prog Reviewer Joined: August 27 2006 Location: The Beach Status: Offline Points: 13489 |
Posted: October 17 2012 at 21:07 | |||
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"The wind is slowly tearing her apart"
"Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN |
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HolyMoly
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Posted: October 17 2012 at 21:11 | |||
I picked Fingerprince by the Residents. It's the album (their 3rd or 4th, depending on where you think Not Available lies) where their melodic sense first started to really come together. My CD has the Babyfingers EP appended to it, which is pretty much considered part of the album by now. I probably like Meet the Residents better, but Fingerprince is still one of my favorites by the band.
Edited by HolyMoly - October 17 2012 at 21:13 |
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The Doctor
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Posted: October 17 2012 at 22:39 | |||
I chose Over. I think it beats out the VDGG offering, although perhaps not by much. Fingerprince is also a pretty freaking cool album. As is Low.
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I can understand your anger at me, but what did the horse I rode in on ever do to you?
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richardh
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Posted: October 18 2012 at 01:34 | |||
Are these albums meant to be 'punk related' as I've never heard any of them to be honest? A very underated prog album from 1977 is Phos by Greek band Socrates.Nothing like the Yes, Genesis,ELP hackneyed approach (by then) but something different , more earthy with tons of energy and invention.
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Saperlipopette!
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Posted: October 18 2012 at 02:09 | |||
No richardh, its the albums I enjoy from the year of punk, 1977. Never heard of Phos. Thanks for the tip. I'll see if I locate some streams or vids.
Normal people will obviously always prefer crap, so everyman will always think that the most famous or catchiest equals best, so I obviously wasn't thinking about them. Rock journalists are even worse than normal people, and would dismiss this list even faster. Not that they've ever heard more than two or three of the albums included (much like Hercules) About 75% of the albums in the poll are genuinely progressive in the true meaning of the word (the rest are just proggy obscurities I enjoy). Those famous albums I left out are mostly not. Stating that Raindance, Ocean or Geese and the Ghost is more relevant and superlative than Univers Zero's debut or Trance Europe Express is either uninformed or has to do with limited listening abilities. I said in the opening post I was on a mission where (albums that do nothing for me such as) Animals and Going for the One don't fit in. How much of a problem can that really be?
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someone_else
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Posted: October 18 2012 at 03:07 | |||
Mirage, one of Klaus Schulze's best albums.
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tamijo
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Posted: October 18 2012 at 04:55 | |||
From the list : Bowie Low but i would prefer Lodger, a more interesting experiment, the istrrumentals on Low is good, but even better on Heroes.
More favorites from this period
Peter Gabriel II, .
Pere UBU Modern Dance
The Cure Tree Imaginary Boys
Japan Quiet Life
JT Stormwatch
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Prog is whatevey you want it to be. So dont diss other peoples prog, and they wont diss yours
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Snow Dog
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Posted: October 18 2012 at 04:57 | |||
Never Mind The Bollocks Here's The Sex Pistols.
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Snow Dog
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Posted: October 18 2012 at 04:59 | |||
It's your attitude is the problem I think.
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Saperlipopette!
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Posted: October 18 2012 at 07:59 | |||
First I defend late 70's prog, loath punk and then simply explain why I leave out some of the most well known progrleated albums. You should all be lovin' this!
When I wrote I'm certain history will someday prove me right that these are the truly essential albums of year zero... I meant experimental rock or electronic music made the same year as a handful of punk "classics", will someday be regarded more important. I don't care if people disagree with me but I like them to disagree on the correct premises. I wasn't thinking about the albums in the poll versus Animals or Going for the One, but versus the punkrock canon. I thought it was obvious because those latter progfaves aren't considered classics of punks year zero, they are considered the enemy. I think some songs on Never Mind The Bollocks will have a similar reputation as something like popular, primitive folktunes (the sort I don't like), and that Trans Europe Express and Mirage will be considered art. While Raindances (its not that I don't personally like it. I do) probably won't be considered at all. An irish drinkingsong compared to Beethoven's late quartet's or something. |
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Blacksword
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Posted: October 18 2012 at 07:59 | |||
Normal people? |
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Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
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thellama73
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Posted: October 18 2012 at 08:07 | |||
The fact that the Eagles' Greatest Hits is among the best selling albums of all times shows that normal people (normal being defined as "in agreement with the majority") have terrible taste. I happen to agree with my friend that these albums will be considered more important than punk. Trans-Europe Express and Low practically have that distinction already. That being said, I don't dislike punk all that much and do find it enjoyable on occasion. |
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AtomicCrimsonRush
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Posted: October 18 2012 at 08:13 | |||
Kraftwerks TEE in toughest prog year ever
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Blacksword
Prog Reviewer Joined: June 22 2004 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 16130 |
Posted: October 18 2012 at 12:34 | |||
Well, I certainly agree about the Eagles.. I like a fair amount of punk too. |
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Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
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Logan
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Posted: October 18 2012 at 12:41 | |||
My favourite album in PA that occurred to me without checking my collection from 1977 over the past six months or so might have been this:
4.82 | 3 ratings Sette note in nero [The Psychic] (with Bixio and Tempera) 1977 But, as I said, I love so very much on this list, that I had no problem finding lots of music I could have voted for happily. My traditional faveourite is the UZ -- that is my favourite Univers Zero album, and one of the, I think, truly great albums in PA. Edited by Logan - October 18 2012 at 13:04 |
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Hercules
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Posted: October 18 2012 at 14:17 | |||
All but Archaia, Dionne Bregent, Lard Free, Artcane and Conventum, but mostly only once except Bowie, Univers Zero, Klaus Schulze, Popol Vuh and VDGG. Heard those plenty but they're just not to my taste.
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Logan
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Posted: October 18 2012 at 14:40 | |||
Okay, thanks for answering. You've heard a lot of this. Despite this covering a range of music I love, sharing similar tastes to the OP, and having got some recommendations from the OP in the past on ones here which gives me greater knowledge of the music, I haven't heard at least two of these albums at all that I know of: The Francis Lai album and the Oriental Wind album. And two of these albums are fairly recent additions to my collection: The Leprino and Clivage ones. Your knowledge of progressive music under PA's umbrella that you don't care for is probably much better than my knowledge of music that I don't care for (say, my knowledge of Prog metal albums and Neo Prog is very limited, though I've sampled a fair amount). That said, I didn't really get deeply into such stuff until this past decade. Before that I only knew Gryphon, Focus, Genesis, Yes, Pink Floyd, Jethro Tull, Camel, Rush and a few other pretty big names (plus various stuff in Prog Electronic and a little in JRF because I was into that before this big Prog phase). I did assume that you wouldn't have listened to more than perhaps a few of these albums as most of these are not well-known. Edited by Logan - October 18 2012 at 14:46 |
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Saperlipopette!
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Posted: October 19 2012 at 01:59 | |||
Yep. I'm too sorry I took it for granted you hadn't heard these albums. I really don't know how its possible to expose oneself to so much music in so many genres as you do, and enjoy so little of it.
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Saperlipopette!
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Posted: October 19 2012 at 02:14 | |||
That Francis lai album is included by mistake, really. My brain made it out to be Lucio Battisti's 1974 album Anima Latina. Don't know quite how I've managed to not notice until now. My intention was to keep the poll 100% PA-related material, and this is just a good soundtrack but nothing special. I'll replace it with that Bixio/Frizzi/Tempera album, although it wasn't released until 2006. A little late but the poll will look better that way. I'll give it my vote. (Btw: have a look at a PM sent the 19th of july)
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