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    Posted: October 14 2012 at 20:44
The Magma streak is over but that just means it's time to start a new one.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 14 2012 at 21:20
I'll give it to Kew Rhone here; only heard it, the Magma and the MBTW, but it's a great album.  That Magma's one of my favorites of their live albums too, though. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 15 2012 at 00:11
Ooo...well you got me here. Only know one of them (though I"ve been meaning to get the MBTW album for awhile)
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 15 2012 at 00:19
I must vote for Gila, but the Magma album is good too.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 15 2012 at 06:35
I know the Magma, Os Mutantes, and Hawkwind albums.  Magma wins for me again, but the Hawkwind was a superb effort, and the Os Mutantes is pretty good despite being a little out of character for them -- i.e. a pretty standard prog album from a group known more for psychedelic takes on Brazilian music (those 1st 2 albums of theirs are sooo nice).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 15 2012 at 08:20
I actually know 3 of these.  Shocked  My vote is for the My Brother The Wind, which I listened to after you listed their other album in a previous poll.  I am also familiar with the Magma, which I didn't really care for if I remember correctly, and the Hawkwind album, which was pretty good.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 15 2012 at 09:18
I know only the Magma album in this list
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 15 2012 at 09:48
Originally posted by SaltyJon SaltyJon wrote:

I'll give it to Kew Rhone here; only heard it, the Magma and the MBTW, but it's a great album.  That Magma's one of my favorites of their live albums too, though. 

I was thinking Logan might vote for them too but we'll see. I prefer "Songs" but most value "Kew Rhone" the most.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 15 2012 at 09:53
Originally posted by Man With Hat Man With Hat wrote:

Ooo...well you got me here. Only know one of them (though I"ve been meaning to get the MBTW album for awhile)
 
Magma by default and by greatness.
LOL You can never go wrong voting for Magma and that is one of my favourite live records by them.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 15 2012 at 10:10
Originally posted by bytor2112 bytor2112 wrote:

I must vote for Gila, but the Magma album is good too.

Clap Love that GILA album, in fact it's probably comes off as more of a POPOL VUH record with Fricke, Veit and Ficheischer fresh off doing their "Hosianna Mantra" album. Veit was the only original GILA member at this point as that band had disbanded when Veit joined POPOL VUH only to have him wanting to do one more album before closing the band for good. Veit would then play with AMON DUUL II in their tour of France in the Winter of 1973/74.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 15 2012 at 10:15
Originally posted by HolyMoly HolyMoly wrote:

I know the Magma, Os Mutantes, and Hawkwind albums.  Magma wins for me again, but the Hawkwind was a superb effort, and the Os Mutantes is pretty good despite being a little out of character for them -- i.e. a pretty standard prog album from a group known more for psychedelic takes on Brazilian music (those 1st 2 albums of theirs are sooo nice).

I wanted to vote for Hawkwind but somehow in my grogginess(is that a word?) i hit My Brother The Wind this morning. Confused
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 15 2012 at 10:17
I should obviously vote for Magma, as the ultimate Theusz Hamtaahk is on Retrospektiw, but to be honest I'm not sure I've listened to the full version of MDK on this more than once. Besides I might be the only chance Lard Free's got of getting a vote. Great band with a flawless discography. The would probably have a much bigger cult following if they were german.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 15 2012 at 10:21
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Prog is whatevey you want it to be. So dont diss other peoples prog, and they wont diss yours
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 15 2012 at 11:55
Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

I should obviously vote for Magma, as the ultimate Theusz Hamtaahk is on Retrospektiw, but to be honest I'm not sure I've listened to the full version of MDK on this more than once. Besides I might be the only chance Lard Free's got of getting a vote. Great band with a flawless discography. The would probably have a much bigger cult following if they were german.


I also like how none of their albums sound the same. This one is almost Electronic with HELDON's Richard Pinhas having a prominant role on guitar and synths.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 15 2012 at 14:09
Originally posted by Mellotron Storm Mellotron Storm wrote:

Originally posted by SaltyJon SaltyJon wrote:

I'll give it to Kew Rhone here; only heard it, the Magma and the MBTW, but it's a great album.  That Magma's one of my favorites of their live albums too, though. 

I was thinking Logan might vote for them too but we'll see. I prefer "Songs" but most value "Kew Rhone" the most.


I'm actually rather  torn between Kew Rhone, Retrospektiw I-II, and I'm Around About Midnight (the only three I have off the list, but I've loved them all), and so will think it out in this post (writing out loud as I lamely think).  The Lard Free has the advantage of being fresher to me.  I haven't had it as long as the others, and so it hasn't been shelved as much, nor worn out the same sense of excitement..  "Theusz Hamtaahk" is my favourite piece off those albums, and it is excellent (could still happily play that now).  Kew Rhone was one of my favourite albums in PA, but it lost a lot of its lustre for me (the "musical" qualities sound a bit too mechanical/ inorganic, and erm, fey?, for me  now).   I will go for the Lard Free.  I used to love the "MDK" version on that Magma album, but it's not one of my favourite MDK versions any longer.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 15 2012 at 15:06
^Thanks Greg !
LIGHTSHINE doesn't get much love apparently but i really dig this sole release from the German band. Lots of flute and spacey passages with vocals in English. Just some good songs on his one.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 15 2012 at 15:19
I'll also mention Kollektiv a German band who play a Jazz flavoured Krautrock style of music. Flute and sax as well in this all-instrumental band. This is a posthumous release from 2005 with the concert taking place in 1973.These guys love to improvise and to manipulate their sound.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 17 2012 at 01:44
Os Mutantes with no votes? I think not a lot of people knows this band nor this album. They are no doubt about it one of my favorite brazilian bands. I'll give them a vote!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 17 2012 at 02:30
Originally posted by Mellotron Storm Mellotron Storm wrote:

^Thanks Greg !
LIGHTSHINE doesn't get much love apparently but i really dig this sole release from the German band. Lots of flute and spacey passages with vocals in English. Just some good songs on his one.

Yes, unfortunately, As with a lot of german bands with lots of great musical potential, choosing to sing in a heavily accented english: I can't get passed the vocals. Hoeldelin's Traum gets an extra star or two by default just for singing in their native language (its a beautiful album as well). Its so important for the musical flow and among the folkier bands its also essential for the feeling of authenticity. 

Originally posted by Mellotron Storm Mellotron Storm wrote:

I'll also mention Kollektiv a German band who play a Jazz flavoured Krautrock style of music. Flute and sax as well in this all-instrumental band. This is a posthumous release from 2005 with the concert taking place in 1973.These guys love to improvise and to manipulate their sound.

Interesting. I have heard their only studio album but always preferred the lower rated SWF-Sessions Volume 5 also containing similar/identical compositions. I guess I need to check out this album as well, as their music seems to come more alive on live recordings.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 17 2012 at 09:38
^ I think most would agree with you including myself that singing in their native language is always prefered. Although personally i have trouble with Polish, Russian and some other Eastern bloc countries because the language is not appealing in the least. I've marked many a recording down from these places only because it affected my enjoyment in a major way.
With Krautrock though singing in English was really part of the anti-establishment, underground movement. The pop.beat and commercial sounding bands all sang in German and so Amon Duul II, Can and on and on all sang in English and for me there are very few that bother me. Eloy's "Ocean" is an example for me of having terrible accented vocals although i've gotten used to them. I haven't got the same problem with their earlier records like "Inside" and "Floating". Different singer ?  Eulenspygel is an example of a band who started their careers singing in English but switched to German lyrics because they felt the message in their songs were important for Germans to know.
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