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Man With Hat
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Posted: July 30 2012 at 16:14 |
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Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect.
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Blacksword
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Posted: July 30 2012 at 15:53 |
It is said you can prove anything you want with stats, if you know how to interpret and present them. Do we know what the political orientation of Psychology Today is?? Just a thought.
In my experience, people who would call themselves 'liberal' do seem to me to be more intelligent, certainly more articulate and more capable of empathy. But it's all generalisation really. My father used to mix in 'conservative circles' which were comprised mostly of very educated and intelligent people, who always seemed to be doing something benevolent. But, for years there were large swathes of the UK population, who were die hard conservatives, and those of my acquaintance seemed barely able to construct a sentence.
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Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
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CPicard
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Posted: July 30 2012 at 14:08 |
thellama73 wrote:
It didn't make me laugh, if that's what you mean.
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thellama73
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Posted: July 30 2012 at 13:57 |
It didn't make me laugh, if that's what you mean.
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CPicard
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Posted: July 30 2012 at 13:41 |
thellama73 wrote:
^ I think that was exactly his point.
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Could you please reassure me: you understood my joke, didn't you?
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Smurph
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Posted: July 30 2012 at 13:40 |
Why isn't there a choice for "I dislike it when people side with either side of political spectrum"
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thellama73
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Posted: July 30 2012 at 13:38 |
^ I think that was exactly his point.
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CPicard
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Posted: July 30 2012 at 13:21 |
Equality 7-2521 wrote:
CPicard wrote:
In France, these last 5 years, we had several living proofs that the French conservative politicians are, indeed, less intelligent than the French liberal/progressive politicians.
But I'm not sure it could apply to the voting citizens.
Yet, thinking about it and having in mind some "incidents", I'm re-considering that opinion...
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12 days ago I saw proof that the moon is never illuminated.
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Well, if you're looking where the moon never shines...
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Equality 7-2521
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Posted: July 30 2012 at 13:19 |
CPicard wrote:
In France, these last 5 years, we had several living proofs that the French conservative politicians are, indeed, less intelligent than the French liberal/progressive politicians.
But I'm not sure it could apply to the voting citizens.
Yet, thinking about it and having in mind some "incidents", I'm re-considering that opinion...
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12 days ago I saw proof that the moon is never illuminated.
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"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "
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Equality 7-2521
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Posted: July 30 2012 at 13:18 |
Some methodological issues:
1) Biased definitions 2) Use of I.Q. as a metric for intelligence. The study shows nothing about intelligence. It shows a correlation with I.Q. 3) Lack of any attempt to control for confounding variables. Do wealthier people identify as liberal more than conservative? Do wealthier people have better access to education?
Studies like this are complete jokes done to grab headlines and burn through research grants.
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"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "
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CPicard
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Posted: July 30 2012 at 13:16 |
thellama73 wrote:
What I find telling is the lack of imagination or empathy involved in reasoning that the only reason someone could disagree with you politically is due to a deficient brain.
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But it's the only logical explanation!
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thellama73
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Posted: July 30 2012 at 13:06 |
What I find telling is the lack of imagination or empathy involved in reasoning that the only reason someone could disagree with you politically is due to a deficient brain.
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CPicard
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Posted: July 30 2012 at 12:50 |
In France, these last 5 years, we had several living proofs that the French conservative politicians are, indeed, less intelligent than the French liberal/progressive politicians.
But I'm not sure it could apply to the voting citizens.
Yet, thinking about it and having in mind some "incidents", I'm re-considering that opinion...
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BassoonAng
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Posted: July 30 2012 at 01:12 |
I'd tend to define myself as a libertarian, though I abstain from voting because I don't have the patience nor interest to inform myself. I'm not sure which one of these utterly weak candidates will shell out the best future for me, but I will not have a blindly-thrown ballot on my conscience.
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Tapfret
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Posted: July 30 2012 at 00:10 |
The poll does not include an option for those of us not stupid enough to be pigeon-holed. A proper application of ethics requires consideration from both points of view. Thus the bifurcation of politics along these lines is inherently flawed and only serves to divide and conquer for the benefit of the ruling class. And I question the intelligence of anybody who feels that either political perspective is in any way represented by those within the U.S. government.
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timothy leary
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Posted: July 30 2012 at 00:08 |
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The T
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Posted: July 29 2012 at 23:41 |
Brian the only impression one could get from some of your comments in this poll is that, regardless of your creed, you are not that intelligent.
Edited by The T - July 30 2012 at 00:46
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Anthony H.
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Posted: July 29 2012 at 23:11 |
Conservatives are less politically intelligent, yes. But less intelligent overall? That would be an absurd generalization. There are different forms of intelligence that manifest themselves in very different ways.
Edited by Anthony H. - July 29 2012 at 23:13
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stonebeard
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Posted: July 29 2012 at 22:38 |
Finnforest wrote:
Slartibartfast wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
This is a ridiculously trollish poll even for you Slarti. What's next, are whites more intelligent than blacks?
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Well, that's just not the kind of poll I would make because it would be racist. I put up the poll and quoted probably too much from the article, so feel free to knock down the points and made and post a racist poll if you are so inclined. But maybe as a spoiled little rich kid you aren't up to it....
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Seriously Brian? Did you really just say that?
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It has a deep subtext only diehard Liberals would understand.
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Finnforest
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Posted: July 29 2012 at 22:36 |
Slartibartfast wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
This is a ridiculously trollish poll even for you Slarti. What's next, are whites more intelligent than blacks?
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Well, that's just not the kind of poll I would make because it would be racist. I put up the poll and quoted probably too much from the article, so feel free to knock down the points and made and post a racist poll if you are so inclined. But maybe as a spoiled little rich kid you aren't up to it....
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Seriously Brian? Did you really just say that?
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