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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 22 2012 at 12:37
Hawkwind: Upside Down (Space Ritual) maybe?
 
or the whole album  
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 22 2012 at 12:56
Rush - 2112 and Jacob's Ladder
The Mahavishnu Orchestra - Birds Of Fire, The Noonward Race and The Meeting Of The Spirits
King Crimson - Larks' Tongues In Aspic Part 2 and Fracture

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 22 2012 at 13:15
Black Sabbath - After Forever (~though you could pick anything off Master of reality plus others like NIB, Symptom of the universe etc )
Led Zep - Kashmir
Rainbow - stargazer/Light in the black
Iron Maiden - Phantom of the Opera
Budgie - Breadfan

it's funny, there were songs that sounded quite 'heavy' at the time by the likes of Tull and Magnum that sound pretty tame now Smile 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 22 2012 at 13:39
Originally posted by wjohnd wjohnd wrote:

Black Sabbath - After Forever (~though you could pick anything off Master of reality plus others like NIB, Symptom of the universe etc )
Led Zep - Kashmir
Rainbow - stargazer/Light in the black
Iron Maiden - Phantom of the Opera
Budgie - Breadfan

it's funny, there were songs that sounded quite 'heavy' at the time by the likes of Tull and Magnum that sound pretty tame now Smile 


Yeah, like The Beatles Yer Blues and Birthday. My favorites from the White Album.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 22 2012 at 15:14
Dude- been listening to Dies Irae by Vistors from their self-titled

WAY heavier than I thought it was going to be.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 22 2012 at 19:19
Originally posted by Fox On The Rocks Fox On The Rocks wrote:

The Mahavishnu Orchestra - Birds Of Fire, The Noonward Race and The Meeting Of The Spirits

Excellent suggestion! The Mahavishnu Orchestra were one of the heaviest groups of their time.

Originally posted by silverpot silverpot wrote:

Originally posted by wjohnd wjohnd wrote:

Black Sabbath - After Forever (~though you could pick anything off Master of reality plus others like NIB, Symptom of the universe etc )
Led Zep - Kashmir
Rainbow - stargazer/Light in the black
Iron Maiden - Phantom of the Opera
Budgie - Breadfan

it's funny, there were songs that sounded quite 'heavy' at the time by the likes of Tull and Magnum that sound pretty tame now Smile 


Yeah, like The Beatles Yer Blues and Birthday. My favorites from the White Album.

I actually think Yer Blues still sounds plenty heavy today.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 23 2012 at 00:29
How come no one mentioned High Tide, their debut is the heaviest album i heard from the 60's, even preceding Black Sabbath.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 26 2012 at 07:02
Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

"Deutsch Nepal" by Amon Duul II  

"Ogre Battle" by Queen

"Speed King" by Deep Purple (already mentioned, great tune!)

"Halo of Flies" by Alice Cooper

"Larks Tongue in Aspic Part 2" and "Fracture" by King Crimson

"Dancing Madly Backwards" by Captain Beyond

"Master Builder" by Gong

"Heaven and Hell" by Black Sabbath

"Man In The Silver Mountain" by Rainbow


....those are my ten!
I really like that list, cstack!
 
I would add:
 
"Green Manalishi" by Fleetwood Mac (Peter Green's Fleetwood Mac)
 
"Megalomania" by Black Sabbath
 
"A Light in the Black" by Rainbow
 
"Stone Cold Crazy" by Queen
 
"Pibroch (Cap in Hand)" by Jethro Tull
 
"Bad Motor Scooter" by Montrose
 
"Motor City Madhouse" by Ted Nugent
 
"Too Rolling Stoned" by Robin Trower
 
"Hocus Pocus" by Focus
 
"Going Down" by The Jeff Beck Group
 
Frank Marino & Mahogany Rush Live ('77 - the entire damn album) - possibly the best cover of "Purple Haze" ever:
 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 26 2012 at 10:46
Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

like that list, cstack!
 

I would add:

 

"Green Manalishi" by Fleetwood Mac (Peter Green's Fleetwood Mac)

 

"Megalomania" by Black Sabbath

 

"A Light in the Black" by Rainbow

 

"Stone Cold Crazy" by Queen

 

"Pibroch (Cap in Hand)" by Jethro Tull

 

"Bad Motor Scooter" by Montrose

 

"Motor City Madhouse" by Ted Nugent

 

"Too Rolling Stoned" by Robin Trower

 

"Hocus Pocus" by Focus

 

"Going Down" by The Jeff Beck Group

 

Frank Marino & Mahogany Rush Live ('77 - the entire damn album) - possibly the best cover of "Purple Haze" ever:


A lot of the songs listed did indeed seem heavy at the time, but for me the likes of pibroch (no lullaby would have been my pick of JT song), stone cold crazy,
motor city, bad motor etc sound pretty light by comparison to Metallica, motorhead, venom , paradise lost, type o negative , soundgarden, pantera (etc alongside loads of other 2nd and 3rd generation bands)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 26 2012 at 11:05
Originally posted by wjohnd wjohnd wrote:

A lot of the songs listed did indeed seem heavy at the time, but for me the likes of pibroch (no lullaby would have been my pick of JT song), stone cold crazy,
motor city, bad motor etc sound pretty light by comparison to Metallica, motorhead, venom , paradise lost, type o negative , soundgarden, pantera (etc alongside loads of other 2nd and 3rd generation bands)
 
Meh, to each his own. For me, there was more of an immediacy the first time around. Everything thereafter was wash, rinse, repeat. Except, of course, for a few new toys and some annoying affectations (guttural grunts and a certain sterile sameness to the guitar sound). Bigger, louder, faster does not necessarily equate to better.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 26 2012 at 11:11
Whaling Storys - Procol Harum,
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 26 2012 at 14:41
Originally posted by wjohnd wjohnd wrote:

 

A lot of the songs listed did indeed seem heavy at the time, but for me the likes of pibroch (no lullaby would have been my pick of JT song), stone cold crazy,
motor city, bad motor etc sound pretty light by comparison to Metallica, motorhead, venom , paradise lost, type o negative , soundgarden, pantera (etc alongside loads of other 2nd and 3rd generation bands)

OK, but the parameters were 1968-1980.  The bands you mentioned are from a different era. 

It's always easier to build upon what was done before, look how many doors Black Sabbath opened with their original album....heavy metal, death metal, etc.  Amazing debut!  

Instrumentation and amplification changed from the 1960's onward.....more advanced sound processing equipment, rack-mounted effects for guitarists etc. took the music to a higher level than guitarists could achieve with overdriven Marshall stacks. 

Given all that, it is really hard to beat "Deutsch Nepal" for sheer nightmare heaviness!  Screaming in German, distorted organ & Mellotron, torturous bass & drum.....one of my all-time favorite "Let's turn this up & chase everyone out of the party!" song selections!!  
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 26 2012 at 14:43
Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

"Deutsch Nepal" by Amon Duul II  

"Ogre Battle" by Queen

"Speed King" by Deep Purple (already mentioned, great tune!)

"Halo of Flies" by Alice Cooper

"Larks Tongue in Aspic Part 2" and "Fracture" by King Crimson

"Dancing Madly Backwards" by Captain Beyond

"Master Builder" by Gong

"Heaven and Hell" by Black Sabbath

"Man In The Silver Mountain" by Rainbow


....those are my ten!
I really like that list, cstack!
 
I would add:
 
"Green Manalishi" by Fleetwood Mac (Peter Green's Fleetwood Mac)
 
"Megalomania" by Black Sabbath
 
"A Light in the Black" by Rainbow
 
"Stone Cold Crazy" by Queen
 
"Pibroch (Cap in Hand)" by Jethro Tull
 
"Bad Motor Scooter" by Montrose
 
"Motor City Madhouse" by Ted Nugent
 
"Too Rolling Stoned" by Robin Trower
 
"Hocus Pocus" by Focus
 
"Going Down" by The Jeff Beck Group
 
Frank Marino & Mahogany Rush Live ('77 - the entire damn album) - possibly the best cover of "Purple Haze" ever:
 

I salute thee, Sir Dark Elf!!  Well done!!  I actually play most of our combined list on either guitar or bass.  Much fun!  
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 26 2012 at 14:50
The Nile Song by Pink Floyd was pretty heavy for 1969 I guess??
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 26 2012 at 15:18
Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

 

OK, but the parameters were 1968-1980.  The bands you mentioned are from a different era. 

It's always easier to build upon what was done before, look how many doors Black Sabbath opened with their original album....heavy metal, death metal, etc.  Amazing debut!  

Instrumentation and amplification changed from the 1960's onward.....more advanced sound processing equipment, rack-mounted effects for guitarists etc. took the music to a higher level than guitarists could achieve with overdriven Marshall stacks. 



Fair call.
Sabbath were (for me) the 'heaviest' of bands alongside the Dio years of Rainbow.

Sabbath all but invented the genre and listening back their early albums still sound heavy today.
Whereas (and I realsie this is just a personal view) other artists never achieved that 'heaviness'.

Robin Trower was a good shout - which makes me realise that deep, bassy blues is the undertow of heaviness that I am getting at  alongside a thumping drum sound - it doesn't have to be fast.

Some of the others mentioned may  have a heavy riff, but that is complemented and counterpointed by other instruments making the tune less 'heavy' overall.



Led Zep - Immigrant Song (How did I forget that?) is another stomping tune that (for me) defines heavy music.

Anyway - each to their own.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 26 2012 at 15:55
I don't see how The Immigrant Song is even remotely heavy as Sabbath...It has a cool riff... but no.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 26 2012 at 16:06
Originally posted by sagichim sagichim wrote:

I don't see how The Immigrant Song is even remotely heavy as Sabbath...It has a cool riff... but no.
not in Sabbath territory but way ahead of Queen or Jethro Tull
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 05 2016 at 00:14
Sorry to bump an old thread, but I have some really heavy and more obscure suggestions: 

This one is from 1967!! IMO - the first (doom) metal song ever, preceding Black Sabbath by three years and a lot heavier than Helter Skelter: 


This one is earlier than Sabbath as well (and as heavy as anything they've produced):


The first song of this album is pure Slayer... 15 years before Slayer: 


Very raw early doom with organs: 


This one is a very raw live recording of Floyd with Syd, again pure f*****g doom:


Last, but not least - something from Kraftwerk:



Edited by Nicky - July 05 2016 at 00:35
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 05 2016 at 21:33
From The Beatles "Helter Skelter" is often mentioned, but what first comes to mind for me is "I Want You (She's so Heavy)"... perhaps it isn't as heavy as other songs mentioned, but I guess it's among the earlier ones.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 05 2016 at 22:40
Caledonia by Cromagnon is extremely heavy instrumentally and vocal-wise for 1969!

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=U8jOhqOsouM
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