How many Hardcore DT fans???

 At Barbs comment.

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Barbs:

Now that you've exposed me, you naughty, naughty earthling you have to be silenced. But before you're abducted and become a guinea pig in the upcoming "Love Beach Threshold" experiment, I'll reveal some truths about myself and my 'task' here:

1. My name isn't really Manunkind

2. I've uploaded a photo of me as my avatar

3. The experiment... ah yes, the experiment... (strokes three-eyed cat)... the experiment is really conducted on the... (five-minute drum roll) DT haters!!! 

Don't really know much more about the nature of this experiment...although I heard rumours of a mind-warping new drug... supposed to be really powerful stuff... makes you believe the strangest things... and if these rumours are true, then looking at the percentage of DT haters on this forum, the experiment is a total success... 

 

And now, Barbs, hold still, this isn't going to hurt... yet    

 I'm actually finding that the sub-genre lists are much more helpful. I've looked at some threads on the algorithm used to statistically construct the top 100-500 and they have put alot of thought into it and with music being as subjective as it is I think it might be impossible to get a top 100 that is a clear representation of aesthetic reality, but it is a good guide.

I don't think alot of people would argue with DT being in the top couple of bands in Prog-Metal and it is only natural that a band with such a strong following is going to poll heavily. I don't think anyone disputes the talent of these guys but perhaps there is some confusion, as it was for me orginally, as to the purose of the list. I thought it was to indicate landmark albums that have generated certain degrees of progress in the continuing history of progressive or art/expermentive rock.

I would have assumed that the late 60s and 70s albums would be fundamental to take up the top 10 to 15 albums and then over time, as new bands breakthrough with 'watershed' albums, they would take their rightful place at the top to the 'honour' board. That was how I thought it worked but it is not like that. So now I go to the sub-genre archives and I think that is where I get a clearer image of what I am looking for.

I also understand the angst that some prog fans might feel at the thought of ToT threatening the position of the top 5 albums. Hopefully over time this will correct itself and that album will descend to a position more befitting its place in the genre.

I'm not hardcore, but I'm a really big fan of them.

Valarius, how could we ever have known that unless you came out of the closet.

I have 11 albums and 1 DVD.

Im not a hardcore fan but i enjoy their music.

Ah ha!!!  As I thought.

My plan worked. Now you have been exposed..ah sorry, I didn't really mean that but...ah....

mmmh.....ah, now that you have exposed yourself....... ah no I'm sorry... that didn't seem to work either... mmmh....I suppose their's no chance of you coming quietly now is there....

Are you from the same planet as the aliens Tony has revealed in his photos..

Boinic Commando wrote: Maybe i'm blinded by the sheer brilliance of Room V (which coincidentally arrived the same day).  But I just disagree with most reviews.  The album is good, yes.  But a Prog Masterpiece?  Get outta town.  I hate all these blind fanboys (the same ones who loved ToT) who can't see flaws. I like the album, it's decent.  I just feel some people are over-rating it.

I agree, Room V is awesome. Octavarium is a 4 star album to me (very good, but not essential). Maybe it's a non-essential masterpiece.

It's fundamental flaw might be that it still contains many elements of the typical DT style that many hoped would progress.

Videos (I remember reel to reel)